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  • Asela
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    Are games manipulated for profit? - Chargers @ Bills

    I know a strange topic, but last week prior to the Chargers/Seahawks game, my friend told me the Chargers were going to cover. He even said, it was a worthwhile risk to take the Chargers to win. He is a professional gambler, it's his only source of income and he does pretty well (self proclaimed 70-75%). He makes his picks based on observation of which teams get most heavily bet on.

    He says the picks he is the most confident in, is when the betting public goes very heavy on a team (ie Seattle), but the point spread moves in the opposite direction than what it should logically. When this happens, it encourages more people to bet on the heavy side. Thus the sportsbooks make the most money in these upset situations, because they win the heavy side of a lopsided line.

    Not every week will my friend see this happen, but he tells me to expect the Chargers to lose in Buffalo this week by at least 3, most likely 6-7pts. The line opened up at +0 for the Chargers and now has moved to +2.5 for the Chargers. Yet, most of the money bet is on the Chargers. Since that is the case, the line should've moved to perhaps -1 or -1.5 for the Chargers, and it hasn't. I can see his logic, and it doesn't make sense for the sportsbooks to do this, unless they do know something.

    I don't know if the sportsbooks actually can manipulate games, but it was clear the NBA ref Donaghy was fixing games for someone (for a long time) when he was caught.

    The Chargers really need to win this game and they should win this game. But it appears we may be fighting more than just the Bills this weekend. Possibly the refs, etc as well.

    Fortunately, my friend is not always right, so I hope this week is where he gets it wrong. He actually has a lot of parleys with Mississippi St and/or the Bills this weekend.

    In any case, the Chargers need this win. I hope McCoy doesn't play a tight game, let's get a Charger blowout win for once! Go Chargers!
  • TTK
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    #2
    How did the Harvin gift TD fit into this last week? The NFL offices having more control on calls seems like a dangerous thing. Did they choose to ignore Harvin stepping out of bounds or was that just an error beyond belief? Was there an explanation as to why something that blatant was missed? I don't normally buy into the ref conspiracy theory stuff but the calls and non-calls in last week's game seemed really fishy.

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    • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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      #3
      Its called cover...


      Seriously the sports books pay insiders if they know something the public does not, moving the line contrary to the money is not enditement of the NFL involvement. The book has the motive and ability without the NFL being involved, unless you can prove that the NFL receives money from the Sports Books to provide information allowing the books to fliece the unknowing public.

      That said I would love to see that freakanomics guy look into it...
      Go Rivers!

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      • sandiego17
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        #4
        Where is the data that shows more money was bet on the Chargers than the Bills?

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        • sandiego17
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          #5
          Public perception: The public was obviously impressed with the Chargers' upset of the Seahawks, as more than 60 percent of bets are on San Diego and the numbers are similar at other bet-tracking sites. Buffalo is 2-0, compared to San Diego's 1-1, but the Bills still are not a public team.

          Wiseguys' view: Most of the public bets are on San Diego, but it's being overwhelmed by sharp money on Buffalo as the line continues to rise.

          Tuley's Take: The advance line on this game at the Westgate last week was Chargers minus-2.5, and I think that's the better number. When San Diego beat Seattle, I thought for sure that the Chargers would stay the favorite. The Bills' defense has been strong, but the Chargers can move the ball on anyone. I might be sounding like a square here, but the public wins some games, too. The pick: Chargers.

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          • BlazingBolt
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            #6
            Goodell is dirty in that he plays favorites and it wouldn't surprise me if that filtered down to officiating. Favorable handling of spy gate favorable call in tuck rule game. Gambling fixes, i doubt it
            migrated from chargerfans.net then the thenflforum.com then here

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            • richpjr
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              #7
              The line on last week's Charger - Seahawk game move a lot. Started at 5.5, crept up to 6 and then Sunday morning plummeted to 4 points, before ending at 5.

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              • Sec-E4
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                #8
                @Asela

                Your Thread is pretty much pointless post & it's based off of your friend who allegedly makes a living off of Gambling.

                Lemme guess was your friend going to college & dating a hot student ?who also was majoring in law school ? But somehow his gambling buddy from back in the day, all of a sudden got released from prison & they hooked up afterwards to make a few hustles? After awhile his girlfriend got fed up with his promise to never gamble again & then she found a bank roll in his coat pocket while he was showering!

                LoNG story short....Your friend beats Johnny Chan & Eric Seidel in the World Series of Poker & these rest is history


                Ohhhh & by the way......Don't Splash the fucking Pot
                Last edited by Sec-E4; 09-19-2014, 10:42 PM.

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                • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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                  #9
                  Don't go their, Asela is a long time member and much respected.
                  Go Rivers!

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                  • Sec-E4
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                    #10
                    So we have to agree with him because his buddy is a Gambler ??

                    I 100% disagree with his logic

                    Is that wrong ?

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                    • Faded blues
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                      #11
                      What he is saying few people have poured a large amount of cash on buff thus moving the line to minus 2.5 even with a heavy load of small bets on the chargers.

                      Usually wise guys bet early or late.

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                      • richpjr
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Faded blues View Post
                        What he is saying few people have poured a large amount of cash on buff thus moving the line to minus 2.5 even with a heavy load of small bets on the chargers.

                        Usually wise guys bet early or late.
                        That was my point on the Chargers - Seahawks game. The public bet on the Seahawks driving the point spread up and a lot of money was bet on the Chargers Sunday morning and the point spread dropped a lot.

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