The Panthers also parted with a member of their 2021 draft class, waiving former Alabama offensive lineman Deonte Brown, whose conditioning was an issue at times.
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Leatherwood has the worst hand placement of a 1st round OL I have ever seen. For a guy who tries to play the game without moving his feet, he is really, really bad at it.
He has some juice in his feet (or did in college), but he has long stretches where he doesn't like to move them. He moves well in space if you want him to lead a play, but as soon as someone bumps him he tries to lean on them and he gets his body in such horrible position he falls on his face. He does a horrible job of moving his feet after contact and just likes to lean on guys, instead of work to get position and control them. NFL DL and LB eat him alive because he is out of position initially, and he doesn't do much to improve his position. He reminds me a lot of Fluker, because while he has long arms and some footwork, he does everything possible to win/lose the snap at the line, and most of the time he can't recover.
The best thing possible would be for him to sit out the year and find someone to teach him about leverage and angles, and get the idea that he can win plays at the line out of his skull.
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Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post
This is crazy, but do Alabama OL have problems in the NFL? They're so good in college.
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Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post
This is crazy, but do Alabama OL have problems in the NFL? They're so good in college.
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Alabama has a pro bowl OL in terms of human material, with a D that can keep them in a lot of games and not make them throw a bunch except off of play-action. I don't think their guys get exposed that much, and every fair-weather fan who evaluates your draft will give you a good grade for a guy who dominates in college like the Alabama guys do against their competition. Yeah, I think they do tend to be somewhat overrated. THey are good players, with a lot of upside.
It also helps them that they play in one of the few pro-style offenses, and there is a lack of really complete college OL. Plenty of guys if you are willing to project, but the Alabama OL use NFL sets and plays, so you don't have to project so much, and that is comforting for a lot of teams.
I don't think it helps some of these guys that they are extremely good athletes and when they get to the NFL they have to develop technique to become great players. OL play is very unforgiving for guys who have poor technique.
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Originally posted by ghost View Post
Reframing this question....Do Alabama offensive lineman tend to be over-drafted at the pro level - despite their pro projections - solely due to the brand of the Crimson Tide program?
So is Kirby Smart and there is a strong connection between him and Staley that’s built on common ground and trust. Big reason Chargers pulled trigger on Jamaree Salyer.
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Originally posted by Leslie Grossman View Post
Ferrell a terrible pick also, suppose we will never know if Mayock made the calls or Gruden?
That said, I don’t think anyone would’ve guessed that Leatherwood would bust so completely. Sure he had some red flags, but we’re also talking about an Outland Trophy winner. 1st round was definitely too rich, but I think few would’ve second guessed it if he had gone 2nd round.
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Originally posted by Duck of Death View Post
That’s the strange thing. Mayock was a pretty well respected draft guru prior to joining the Raiders. I recall eagerly awaiting his analysis & predictions every year. But every year without fail, the Raider’s 1st pick would raise eyebrows - like WTF did they just do?? Although I guess that’s been the case for some time now, so maybe it’s just Mark Davis.
That said, I don’t think anyone would’ve guessed that Leatherwood would bust so completely. Sure he had some red flags, but we’re also talking about an Outland Trophy winner. 1st round was definitely too rich, but I think few would’ve second guessed it if he had gone 2nd round.
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Originally posted by ghost View Post
Reframing this question....Do Alabama offensive lineman tend to be over-drafted at the pro level - despite their pro projections - solely due to the brand of the Crimson Tide program?
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Originally posted by richpjr View Post
His collapse is pretty surprising. I wasn't as high on him coming out but to think they have given up on him after one year is pretty mind boggling - like there is not chance he'll improve.
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