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Originally posted by Velo View PostNot sure where to post this, but since it involves players from around the league I'll put it here.
This type of WR seems to thrive in the NFL: 6-1ish to 6-2; between 200-215 lbs; not blazing speed.
Examples:
Cooper Kupp: 6-2, 204lbs, 4.6 40 time
Davante Adams: 6-1, 215lbs, 4.56 40 time
DeAndre Hopkins: 6-1, 214lbs, 4.57 40 time
Justin Jefferson: 6-1, 202lbs, 4.43 40 time
Keenan Allen: 6-2, 206lbs, 4.56 40 time? (not sure, but he's not a speedster, as we know)
There are more examples, but these five really stand out IMO. What is it about this height/weight/speed combo that makes for great WRs? Only Jefferson has a sub 4.5 40 time.
Our own Joshua Palmer is in this category too: 6-1, 210lbs, 4.52 speed. I look forward to Palmer's 2nd season.
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Originally posted by Boltgang74 View Post
Just curious,did most if not all of those wrs really kick ass and show they were above most others their first season?
Cooper Kupp: Yes - he had a nice first season as a 3rd option (50 + catches) - Rams were very happy
Devontae Adams: so-so stats (Palmeresque), Green Bay develops talent - does not thrown them out there to sink or swim
De'Andre Hopkins: Yes - had to look up: 52 catches for 803 yards
Justin Jefferson: Yes - runner-up to Herbert for rookie of the year
Keenan Allen: Yes - backup and not often used until injuries struck receiving corp around midseason.
So much depends on who is in front of them.
Josh Palmer's rookie season was almost identical to Devonte Adams - someone i compared him to from the very beginning.
That is why Chaincrusher is so excited about his future.
Davante Adams combine results
MeasurablesFirst Name: Davante Last Name: Adams Nickname: Position: Wide Receiver College: Frenso State (CA) Draft Class: 2014 Draft Age: 21.4
NFL Combine ScoresHeight: 72.88 inches Weight: 212 pounds BMI: 28.74 Arm Length: 32.63 inches Hand Size: 9.00 inches Wingspan: 77.750 inches Birthdate: 12/24/1992
40 Yard Dash: 4.56 seconds 40 Yard (MPH): 17.94 (MPH) 20 Yard Split: 2.68 seconds 10 Yard Split: 1.64 seconds Bench Press: 14 reps (225 lb) Wonderlic: (N/A) (0-50) QB Ball Velocity: (N/A) (MPH) Josh Palmer's pro day results:Vertical Leap: 39.5 inches Broad Jump: 123 inches 20 Yd Shuttle: 4.30 seconds Three Cone: 6.82 seconds Shuttle Split: (N/A)
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MeasurablesFirst Name: Josh Last Name: Palmer Nickname: Position: Wide Receiver College: Tennessee Draft Class: 2021 Draft Age: N/A
NFL Combine ScoresHeight: (N/A) inches Weight: (N/A) pounds BMI: (N/A) Arm Length: (N/A) inches Hand Size: (N/A) inches Wingspan: 76.875 inches Birthdate: (N/A)
40 Yard Dash: (N/A) seconds 40 Yard (MPH): (N/A) (MPH) 20 Yard Split: (N/A) seconds 10 Yard Split: (N/A) seconds Bench Press: (N/A) reps (225 lb) Wonderlic: (N/A) (0-50) QB Ball Velocity: (N/A) (MPH) Pro Day ScoresVertical Leap: (N/A) inches Broad Jump: (N/A) inches 20 Yd Shuttle: (N/A) seconds Three Cone: (N/A) seconds Shuttle Split: (N/A) seconds 60 Yd Shuttle: (N/A) seconds Four Square: (N/A) seconds
Pro Day Date: 03/25/21 40 Yard Dash: 4.52 seconds 40 Yard (MPH): 18.1 (MPH) 20 Yard Split: 2.64 seconds 10 Yard Split: 1.59 seconds Bench Press: (N/A) reps (225 lb) Vertical Leap: 34.0 inches Height: 73.25 inches Weight: 210 lbs Broad Jump: 124 inches Hand Size: 9.63 inches Arm Length: 33 inches 20 Yd Shuttle: 4.24 seconds Three Cone: 6.98 seconds
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Originally posted by equivocation View PostAlso Allen is a 4.7 guy. So was Rice.
My sweet spot WR as of right now is 6-2 205lbs with a 4.5 - 4.6 time (is acceptable). 10 inch hands. Sub 7-second 3-cone.
-At 6-2 has the frame/height advantage over DBs.
-205lbs has the size advantage yet light enough to retain nimbleness.
-40 time is a can of worms.
-10-inch hands to better grasp/grab/secure/fight for the ball.
-Sub 7 3-cone for change of pace/direction.
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Originally posted by equivocation View Post
Agility, change of direction, and ability to set up breaks by manipulating the defender onto the wrong foot or leverage.
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Originally posted by jamrock View Post
He has the full support of the owner who has shown he'll do whatever it takes and a GM that goes and gets what he can. He just lured Matt Stafford to the team. Everybody talks about a debt coming due but they've been saying about the Rams for a few seasons. Goff trade, Gurley contract, etc. They just keep it moving as Staley would say.
The Rams are willing to trade early round picks for veterans who can come in and make a difference from the start. OBJ cost nothing, Miller a couple of early round picks, Stafford some early round picks and Ramsey some early round picks.
My guess is they let Ramsey go first. He was not good in the Super Bowl.“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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Originally posted by equivocation View PostAlso Allen is a 4.7 guy. So was Rice.
He may be headed back to 4.7 now lol“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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