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[Maniaque 6]

Maybe about 20 who played for the Chargers.

[Boltjolt]

I think Tdub is with the Lions now. He had some nice seasons for us. I wonder how many guys named Williams have played in the NFL? Must be a hundred of them.

Tyrell got released by the Lions. He had a injury...concussion or foot injury....i forget and missed a lot of games so when he was better they released him. I think he is still available but not sure.

[Velo]

Tyrell got released by the Lions. He had a injury...concussion or foot injury....i forget and missed a lot of games so when he was better they released him. I think he is still available but not sure.

Tyrell is a free agent. I'm a bit surprised he's not at least on somebody's practice squad somewhere. His career has been a tragedy since he left the Chargers. He had some good seasons. 2016 he was Phil's leading WR after Keenan went down, 1,100 yds and 7 or 8 TDs. In 2018 he was a big part of the success of that year. He was better than Mike Williams in Mike's 1st couple of seasons. Then the Raiders offered him a huge contract. The started out pretty good, scoring a TD in every game for the first six weeks. Then injuries derailed him, and he's never gotten back on track. Even if he doesn't play again, he's had a good run in the NFL, much better than you would expect for a UDFA out of a tiny school like Western Oregon.

[Boltjolt]

Tyrell is a free agent. I'm a bit surprised he's not at least on somebody's practice squad somewhere. His career has been a tragedy since he left the Chargers. He had some good seasons. 2016 he was Phil's leading WR after Keenan went down, 1,100 yds and 7 or 8 TDs. In 2018 he was a big part of the success of that year. He was better than Mike Williams in Mike's 1st couple of seasons. Then the Raiders offered him a huge contract. The started out pretty good, scoring a TD in every game for the first six weeks. Then injuries derailed him, and he's never gotten back on track. Even if he doesn't play again, he's had a good run in the NFL, much better than you would expect for a UDFA out of a tiny school like Western Oregon.

Yep and he has 5 years in so he gets the NFL pension. Not sure how they work. Im sure more years equals more than 5 years, but its something and probably better than a regular job.

[Bolt4Knob]

I don’t know how anyone can expect him to perform after Urban waived one of the best WRs in football. Just ask Chain. Can’t be a GOAT without a Tbilly.

Leftwich or Jim Caldwell would be two names I think the Jaguars should consider. Leftwich playing for the team so has history with
"Duval" and also being mentored by Arians. Caldwell has coached many good NFL QBs. Would be a calming boring presence for Lawrence. No drama,

[Formula 21]

#NCAANews

SDSU will play them.

[northerner]

For three years I've been reading how great Trevor Lawrence will be. Now, nearing the end of his first year, he's been pretty pedestrian. Did people over-rate him or is it a rookie year thing that he'll overcome?

it always tougher when you no longer have the best talent on your O-line, the best WR's and RB's to make your life easier. TL got beat his sophmore and junior years in the CFP when he came up against teams that were on par with Clemson from a talent standpoint (I don't follow college that closely, but LSU and Ohio State had great teams to match Clemson).

on the other hand, there are many HOF QB's who got run over in their rookie season (P. Manning, Aikman, Steve Young, etc., etc. etc.), so the jury is definitely out for Trevor L.

[dmac_bolt]

it always tougher when you no longer have the best talent on your O-line, the best WR's and RB's to make your life easier. TL got beat his sophmore and junior years in the CFP when he came up against teams that were on par with Clemson from a talent standpoint (I don't follow college that closely, but LSU and Ohio State had great teams to match Clemson).

on the other hand, there are many HOF QB's who got run over in their rookie season (P. Manning, Aikman, Steve Young, etc., etc. etc.), so the jury is definitely out for Trevor L.

Elway got worked like a mule his first year and didn’t play HOF-like level until year 4. Fouts was horrible his first 3 years on a bad Chargers team. It’s way too early to toss this kid in the shitcan when he’s on the worst team in football and had maybe the worst coach in pro sports before that jackhole was fired.

That said - I’d lay a bet that Herbie is better start to finish

[northerner]

Elway got worked like a mule his first year and didn’t play HOF-like level until year 4. Fouts was horrible his first 3 years on a bad Chargers team. It’s way too early to toss this kid in the shitcan when he’s on the worst team in football and had maybe the worst coach in pro sports before that jackhole was fired.

That said - I’d lay a bet that Herbie is better start to finish

Dmac - as long suffering Charger fans (my first year of suffering was 1979 at age 10 - it sounds like you go further back), we have to thank the football gods every day that Hertert landed on our team. He is the real deal.

[Heatmiser]

I think Lawrence has a ton of talent. He plays for a crappy team right now with a crappy coaching staff. I think he is too talented and grounded to get ruined by the stench around him, but I doubt he is ever as good as Herbert. I also doubt all the ‘experts’ out there who said he is superior to Herbert as a prospect will ever let it go. I wish him well — seems like a good young man.

TG

[powderblueboy]

Tyrell is a free agent. I'm a bit surprised he's not at least on somebody's practice squad somewhere. His career has been a tragedy since he left the Chargers. He had some good seasons. 2016 he was Phil's leading WR after Keenan went down, 1,100 yds and 7 or 8 TDs. In 2018 he was a big part of the success of that year. He was better than Mike Williams in Mike's 1st couple of seasons. Then the Raiders offered him a huge contract. The started out pretty good, scoring a TD in every game for the first six weeks. Then injuries derailed him, and he's never gotten back on track. Even if he doesn't play again, he's had a good run in the NFL, much better than you would expect for a UDFA out of a tiny school like Western Oregon.

This is why it hasn't been a tragedy.....rather, it has been a success.

[powderblueboy]

Elway got worked like a mule his first year and didn’t play HOF-like level until year 4. Fouts was horrible his first 3 years on a bad Chargers team. It’s way too early to toss this kid in the shitcan when he’s on the worst team in football and had maybe the worst coach in pro sports before that jackhole was fired.

That said - I’d lay a bet that Herbie is better start to finish

Back then, all rookie qbs struggled in the NFL for various reasons: Dan Marino was the exception.


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