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[CanadianBoltFan]

Yeah, I been thinking about this too. He can't play forever, and how much longer can he play at a level where he's catching 100+ passes for 1300+ yards and 12 TDs? Just for comparison, Antonio Gates at age 34 caught 69 for 821 yds and 12 TDs. But starting with his age 35 year his production declined every season.

yes i am thinking another really good season this year and at 35 the downslope begins

[dmac_bolt]

We beat the Dolphins and Titans last season. But that was last season. This is a new season. Having said that, the one I want to win is Minnesota. I am annoyed that we keep losing to the Vikings.

Its a new season

[dmac_bolt]

The smartest coach in the NFL went for it on 4th and 25 or 27 with no clearly capable WR (I thought it was 25, NFL Radio kept saying 27 this morning) with 2.5min left and 3 TOs.
After the game, he basically told the press that he had no confidence that his defense could stop DET. This was right after the Chiefs had stopped them on 4 & out.

Feel free to mull that over...

[richpjr]

The smartest coach in the NFL went for it on 4th and 25 or 27 with no clearly capable WR (I thought it was 25, NFL Radio kept saying 27 this morning) with 2.5min left and 3 TOs.
After the game, he basically told the press that he had no confidence that his defense could stop DET. This was right after the Chiefs had stopped them on 4 & out.

Feel free to mull that over...

I don't know if Nagy is the one calling all the plays or Reid is or has a lot of input, but the jet sweep on 3rd and 1 was positively Lombo-like. I guess Bear fans were giddy last night that he is gone as those lame ass plays were a staple of theirs under him. Could they miss Bieniemy more than we thought?

[Velo]

Of the Chiefs offensive starters, who would you rather have on the Chargers? Anyone besides Kelce and perhaps Mahomes?

Well it's hard to say because the Chargers haven't played a game yet. But as of right I am liking the Chargers WR corps and I don't know if I would prefer any of the Chiefs' WRs. I'd probably take their RB Pacheco over any of our backup RBs, though it's again hard to say really without having seen Joshua Kelley yet this season.

The Chiefs have 7 WR on their roster and all 7 were active last night. In the off-season there was a lot written about Justyn Ross, the supposed Mike Williams clone of out of Clemson who was injured coming out of college a few years ago but is now ready to dominate. But I don't know if he even played last night. Smith-Schuster is gone along with Hill, and it does kind of seem the Chiefs have a collection of guys at WR who are just guys. Valdes-Scantling was Mahomes' leading receiver last night with 2 catches for 48 yds. Apparently Reid is determined that one or two of these guys are going to develop into WRs befitting of a Mahomes offense. Skyy Moore hasn't really distinguished himself and Kadarius Toney I think showed who he is last night. The drafted Rashee Rice out of SMU in the third round this year.

Travis Kelce really is the Chiefs' #1 receiver, but he can't do it all. The Chiefs are going to need production from their WRs.

I think the Chargers' WR corps is clearly superior, but that is to be proven.

[blueman]

To be fair, can’t remember the last time Pipkins lined up legally.

[dmac_bolt]

I don't know if Nagy is the one calling all the plays or Reid is or has a lot of input, but the jet sweep on 3rd and 1 was positively Lombo-like. I guess Bear fans were giddy last night that he is gone as those lame ass plays were a staple of theirs under him. Could they miss Bieniemy more than we thought?

Nagy was licking his laminated play chart all night like he was actively involved in play selection. Beats me too.

I assumed for years Bieniemy was just a beard, maybe Andy was fooling everyone the entire time and letting junior scout clipboard carrier rumors swirl his entire career. another beats me.

[Heatmiser]

The word going round is that the officials have been looking away because the league wants to protect their most valuable players... the QBs. But as you said, if they don't call it, OTs will do what they can get away with. Last night was comical though, maybe it started with Florio in pregame, but when McAully said it out loud on the broadcast, its now memeworthy.

That RT is the same one who did that to Bosa repeatedly in the Jags playoff game and who continually held him to the point that Joey popped his cork. The officials had all off season to review the way Taylor plays. Apparently, they don't really want to deal with it. All they have to do for him, or any tackle who lines up incorrectly or jumps to gain a head start (and Pipkins does this at times, just not ALL the time like Taylor) is to throw a couple early flags. They did that to the Chargers in year one of Staley for illegal formation on a ticky-tack borderline call that took some tds off the board against Dallas and the Chargers reacted by not doing it.

TG

[21&500]

Nagy was licking his laminated play chart all night like he was actively involved in play selection. Beats me too.

I assumed for years Bieniemy was just a beard, maybe Andy was fooling everyone the entire time and letting junior scout clipboard carrier rumors swirl his entire career. another beats me.

https://twitter.com/79illwill/status/1700149593961370073

haha

[dmac_bolt]

Well it's hard to say because the Chargers haven't played a game yet. But as of right I am liking the Chargers WR corps and I don't know if I would prefer any of the Chiefs' WRs. I'd probably take their RB Pacheco over any of our backup RBs, though it's again hard to say really without having seen Joshua Kelley yet this season.

The Chiefs have 7 WR on their roster and all 7 were active last night. In the off-season there was a lot written about Justyn Ross, the supposed Mike Williams clone of out of Clemson who was injured coming out of college a few years ago but is now ready to dominate. But I don't know if he even played last night. Smith-Schuster is gone along with Hill, and it does kind of seem the Chiefs have a collection of guys at WR who are just guys. Valdes-Scantling was Mahomes' leading receiver last night with 2 catches for 48 yds. Apparently Reid is determined that one or two of these guys are going to develop into WRs befitting of a Mahomes offense. Skyy Moore hasn't really distinguished himself and Kadarius Toney I think showed who he is last night. The drafted Rashee Rice out of SMU in the third round this year.

Travis Kelce really is the Chiefs' #1 receiver, but he can't do it all. The Chiefs are going to need production from their WRs.

I think the Chargers' WR corps is clearly superior, but that is to be proven.

I agree they are, i don't think anything needs to be proven. Slayer, Dub have proven they are better 100x over, Palmer 2022 was better than any receiver on the field last night imo. jmo.

[Velo]

That RT is the same one who did that to Bosa repeatedly in the Jags playoff game and who continually held him to the point that Joey popped his cork. The officials had all off season to review the way Taylor plays. Apparently, they don't really want to deal with it. All they have to do for him, or any tackle who lines up incorrectly or jumps to gain a head start (and Pipkins does this at times, just not ALL the time like Taylor) is to throw a couple early flags. They did that to the Chargers in year one of Staley for illegal formation on a ticky-tack borderline call that took some tds off the board against Dallas and the Chargers reacted by not doing it.

TG

I was ashamed of Bosa at the time for popping his cork (good choice of words ). But he was right. So now I am less upset at Bosa, because his meltdown got attention, and pundits have picked up on it and it's become an issue the NFL now needs to address.

Florio is convinced that the league is letting OL get away with these infractions in order to protect QBs because edge rushers like Bosa are so much better than OL. I don't know if that is true, but Florio has taken up the cause, and whether you like Florio or not, he does have a pretty loud voice, given his standing and his ability to reach a wide audience.

Personally as a Chargers fan, with investing in premium edge rushers I feel it is a strength of this defense when both are on the field healthy and I don't want that negated by OL getting away with holding and false starts that aren't flagged.

Anyway, Florio and Peter King discuss it in this video and King explains the process of how the league will address it with officiating crews.

[Heatmiser]

To be fair, can’t remember the last time Pipkins lined up legally.

Me neither. But I have seen him "time" the snap a few times, and ironically he has done it vs the Chiefs on some TD plays.

TG