Talent Of The Team Is Overrated

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I'm probably going to get heated for this. But I'll say what I have to say. The team isn't as talented as people think. The talent is overrated.

A team who is that talented doesn't get you to 4-7. A team who is that talented doesn't have trouble in the red zone. A team who is that talented doesn't rank in the bottom 10 on third down defense. A team who is that talented doesn't keep doing things that lead to disaster. If this team is so talented, then why do they have so many issues?

Injuries happen to every team. Teams who are really talented can get things done without one of their superstars. Derwin James was missed, but if the team has to depend on the presence of one guy to cover for their deficiencies, what does that say about the them?

Hailed as being so talented, many flaws were overlooked. Went 12-4 last year and had several pro bowlers. People may have been deluded about the roster the team has. The Chargers have more weakness than the organization and fans want to admit.

There's so much you can point out to why the team has a losing record. This just gives invitation for blaming fodder. Anyway, the Chargers are a team that does well when they have the juice rolling. When they're stagnant, you see results like what you are seeing showing up in the losses. I'm not taking away what the team does possess. Because the Chargers do have good talent on the roster. Just not on the level that they are proclaimed or made out to be.

[Topcat]

I'm probably going to get heated for this. But I'll say what I have to say. The team isn't as talented as people think. The talent is overrated.

A team who is that talented doesn't get you to 4-7. A team who is that talented doesn't have trouble in the red zone. A team who is that talented doesn't rank in the bottom 10 on third down defense. A team who is that talented doesn't keep doing things that lead to disaster. If this team is so talented, then why do they have so many issues?

Injuries happen to every team. Teams who are really talented can get things done without one of their superstars. Derwin James was missed, but if the team has to depend on the presence of one guy to cover for their deficiencies, what does that say about the them?

Hailed as being so talented, many flaws were overlooked. Went 12-4 last year and had several pro bowlers. People may have been deluded about the roster the team has. The Chargers have more weakness than the organization and fans want to admit.

There's so much you can point out to why the team has a losing record. This just gives invitation for blaming fodder. Anyway, the Chargers are a team that does well when they have the juice rolling. When they're stagnant, you see results like what you are seeing showing up in the losses. I'm not taking away what the team does possess. Because the Chargers do have good talent on the roster. Just not on the level that they are proclaimed or made out to be.

I'll agree with you--the Bolts have a lot of current or past starting players who are either barely average or below average in talent and performance. Just to name a few:

Scott
Pip
Feeney
Scho
Thomas Davis
Teamer
Jatavis Brown
Rayshawn--streaky--plays well at times, then gets burned
Mebane
Square
Rochell
Hayward--face it--he's lost a few steps

Yup...lots of mediocrity here...

[OhioBolt]

I think they were talented after the draft and it look like we had depth after the draft except on the oline and TE

What happen will injuries were a big factor obvious but not looking at the Oline and TE which I mentioned above this where talent on paper went to a bald up piece of paper in the trash

QB nobody thought Rivers would play the way he has this year, and we were comfortable with Tyrod and glad Stick displaced Cardale. Nobody seen this coming with Rivers
RB Melvin Gordon holdout and not mention because Eckler has balled out, the abscense of Justin Jackson he demonstrated ability to make big plays but injuries
WR Tyrell was missed more than we realized the next big reciever to make an impact doesn't make it out of pre-season Cantrel, Benjamin gave us zero no depth at this position

D-line we thought Tillery was going to be a difference maker 1st round pick is just a guy, Bosa was a ghost the first 4 games and Melvin Ingram was injured
LB's Thomas Davis was suppose to bring stability, he just shows he's aged, Perryman looks slow, Kizer White is a question mark, Jatavis Brown regressed every year since his rookie year
CB- was suppose to be a position of depth with Hayward, Davis, King and Trevor Williams, but Trevor never made it of IR, and Davis injury showed the big drop off in talent
S- Superstar in the making Derwin James injured and the hype of having the best safeties with the rookie Adderly never materialized, Phillips gets injured early, Adderly plays one game depth took a hit


So all the positions we though had talent blew up by injuries, vet leaders (Rivvers & Thomas Davis) play has been less than stellar, and draft picks counted on to contribute has made almost zero impact.

[Cdn Bolt]

I think they really missed the speed of Ty Williams and Travis Benjamin when he went down w injury. Maybe even Dontrel Inman

After that Telesco just had these UDFA scrubs like Patton,Moore and Davis.

Another problem is their hubris. They think they are so astute they can just find scrubs in UDFA vs doing the other 1/2 of their jobs and getting prove vets in FA and trade.

Works sometimes but not all the time

[Velo]

Not to perpetuate the TW v MW narrative, but it was a mistake not to lock up TW midseason last year before he hit free agency. I think it's pretty clear now that you need quality depth at WR in today's NFL. I think that MW and TW were great 2nd and 3rd options behind KA, and with HH back in the lineup, this offense could have been one of the most unstoppable in the league, and it would greatly benefit the running game. I know they were relying on TB to fill TW's role, and that was a big fail, that should have been forseen based on previous history.

The Cowboys lead the league in total offense, and look at their WR corps: Cooper, Gallup and Cobb as the 1-2-3 WRs. You need that deep trio, in addition to a strong TE.

[Electric Chicken]

I'm probably going to get heated for this. But I'll say what I have to say. The team isn't as talented as people think. The talent is overrated.

A team who is that talented doesn't get you to 4-7. A team who is that talented doesn't have trouble in the red zone. A team who is that talented doesn't rank in the bottom 10 on third down defense. A team who is that talented doesn't keep doing things that lead to disaster. If this team is so talented, then why do they have so many issues?

Injuries happen to every team. Teams who are really talented can get things done without one of their superstars. Derwin James was missed, but if the team has to depend on the presence of one guy to cover for their deficiencies, what does that say about the them?

Hailed as being so talented, many flaws were overlooked. Went 12-4 last year and had several pro bowlers. People may have been deluded about the roster the team has. The Chargers have more weakness than the organization and fans want to admit.

There's so much you can point out to why the team has a losing record. This just gives invitation for blaming fodder. Anyway, the Chargers are a team that does well when they have the juice rolling. When they're stagnant, you see results like what you are seeing showing up in the losses. I'm not taking away what the team does possess. Because the Chargers do have good talent on the roster. Just not on the level that they are proclaimed or made out to be.

We suck,,, keep maybe 6 players and scrap the rest,,, total rebuild is ness

[jamrock]

Talent isn’t the issue. We have plenty of talent.

[dmac_bolt]

Talent isn’t the issue. We have plenty of talent.

i don't think we are stocked with talent. roster is overrated imo. 80% of football is hat on hat, pad on pad, do your job. guys are getting beat. Lynn can't run out there and throw a block for them.

i would guess its just fantasy to assume that Derwin alone would fundamentally change the defense into a D&D force. he can't play 11 positions at once. that said, the bigger problem this year has been more on offense and it can be focused further: Philip and OL.

[Velo]

The defense is talented. It's top 5 in total defense and pass defense. And that is without perhaps its best player in Derwin James and one of its better players in Adrian Phillps, and a promising rookie who ostensibly would have been able to make the pass defense even better. The problem is with the offense. It is in the middle of the pack, and the QB has become a turnover machine. The offense is seriously lacking talent at OL, obviously, and depth at WR - these two shortfalls are the difference between 4-7 and 7-4.

[pacstud]

Secondary - Loads of talent. Goes from above average to elite when healthy.

LB corps - inside is below average talent, outside is average

DE - elite, arguably best in the game when healthy

DT - above average when healthy, average currently...good potential

QB - Ha, spin the wheel. HOF one throw, Jeff George the next.

RB - Elite talent and depth

WR - Elite #1/#2, then huge drop off to far below average

TE - Above average #1 and solid blocking TE corps

O-line - Above average when healthy; tragically bad currently with glimmers of hope for mediocrity

Punter - Good, at times very good

Kicker - Great find, and good depth lol (see above)


So saying we have talent or don't have talent or that it's an issue or non-issue seems simplistic.

[richpjr]

O-line - Above average when healthy; tragically bad currently with glimmers of hope for mediocrity

Above average? Wow. We have 2 guys that would not start for almost any team in the league in Tevi and Feeney and a journeyman in Schofield

[pacstud]

Above average? Wow. We have 2 guys that would not start for almost any team in the league in Tevi and Feeney and a journeyman in Schofield

Okung and Pouncey alone put us above average (objectively). Obviously "when healthy" is a pretty big caveat.

I also think you dramatically overrate other O-lines.