Official 2025 NFL Draft Superthread | Prospect Discussion

[Boltjolt]

Isn’t KC more than a little desperate for OL reinforcement? Homey can work miracles with good blocking, take it away and no receiver matters. Jmo. I’m not sure they are targeting Kelce’s replacement a year early vs OL starter now.

I agree but it's possible.
We have no way of knowing what KC wants in round one but I agree, OL is probably on their list as well as DT

[Fleet 1]

I will say, as someone who has experience with this, governments around the world have made it very easy and very in vogue to delete yourself. What was taboo and very, very uncommon even when I was in school (70's - 80's) it was rare. Now it is everywhere and it is devastating to those left behind to pick up the pieces. Something that stuck with me at a suicide prevention/survivors session I and my wife went to this older woman was telling a story of how she counseled a young teenage girl who had attempted to take her life. She asked the girl, "who do you hate so much that you would curse them to find you and have to cut you body down, or clean up your remains? Who in your life would you choose that you hate to have to do this? She said it scared the girl and she never attempted it again. It would not work on everyone but some people being made aware it would help.

So many countries pushing assisted suicide just to save a buck on state run medical care. This trend has made it so common, acceptable, and in these kids faces all the time. Troubled times for sure. Don't want to make this a political post but just pointing out the trickle down/slippery slope argument this evil trend had caused.

Yeah its sad. But this guy had a gun and shot at a family member. Im certain he was mentally in a dark place..but he seemed to have not learned from his accident. I dont view your boys on this level. While i do agree with you and what you are saying...i hope you know im not suggesting your boys were deeply troubled. Pain is real. This guy just seemed to not value his life or others.

[Leslie Grossman]

Mac, there IS one factor you need to add to your theory...a TE typically runs short to medium routes...a WR, especially an X-Wideout, typically runs medium to long routes...in order to effectively use an X receiver, you need solid pass pro...fortunately we have upgraded our RG spot with Becton...however, LG and C are still question marks...it's that 1-2 extra seconds Herbie has to hold onto the rock to progress to his X receiver that could get him sacked...on the other hand, a TE running a hot route with the heat coming will bail out Herbie frequently...of course, ideally, I'd like to have BOTH a solid receiving TE AND a solid X wideout...

This. Been saying forever the O Line and TE groups must be completed first.
Finish the defense first too. The deep threat won’t keep the D honest until there is no weak link in the line. Haven’t had it since prime Vincent Jackson.
Will be stunned if Golden is the pick, not Egbuka.

[Leslie Grossman]

Hell, I can’t remember the 90s when Michigan of all places, would not let Dr. Jack Kevorkian continue assisted suicide.

[Leslie Grossman]

Can't always go by bench press reps...watch the film:

Yep, you would think Jonathan Ogden would’ve done 40 or more reps, but he did 30. Most bench press champions flopped or were not starters.
Same with most overall combine champs.
Still high on Booker with his vision to pick up the blitz, character, and because he has it between the ears.

[CanadianBoltFan]

Can't always go by bench press reps...watch the film:

Maybe but i am over the blocking obsession. We already have Dissly and Fisk in the TE room for that. What the room lacks is a dynamic pass catcher and seam stretcher. That is not Hawes.

[CanadianBoltFan]

Yep, you would think Jonathan Ogden would’ve done 40 or more reps, but he did 30. Most bench press champions flopped or were not starters.
Same with most overall combine champs.
Still high on Booker with his vision to pick up the blitz, character, and because he has it between the ears.

30 is fine, 16 isnt...That is what DBs do and some do more. At least Arroyo and Fannin did 22 and they are receivers and explosve players not in line blockers.

[Lone Bolt]

Yep, you would think Jonathan Ogden would’ve done 40 or more reps, but he did 30. Most bench press champions flopped or were not starters.
Same with most overall combine champs.
Still high on Booker with his vision to pick up the blitz, character, and because he has it between the ears.

People should watch Booker...there is a 14 minute highlight reel on youtube, i think the channel is nflfilmroom...not sure...

Count how many times his targets end up on the ground, folks...you will forget all about his combine workout...

[FoutsFan]

Yeah its sad. But this guy had a gun and shot at a family member. Im certain he was mentally in a dark place..but he seemed to have not learned from his accident. I dont view your boys on this level. While i do agree with you and what you are saying...i hope you know im not suggesting your boys were deeply troubled. Pain is real. This guy just seemed to not value his life or others.

I agree for sure with your points of this guy shooting family. My point was more to how the cultural views on suicide have changed dramatically recently. Tommy was troubled though by PTSD from what he saw in the Army and how the Army threatened him if he were to seek help. The pain is real for sure.

[Fleet 1]

Heart goes out to you bro.

[Topcat]

This. Been saying forever the O Line and TE groups must be completed first.
Finish the defense first too. The deep threat won’t keep the D honest until there is no weak link in the line. Haven’t had it since prime Vincent Jackson.
Will be stunned if Golden is the pick, not Egbuka.

^ This...I think we need an OG by round 3...a C sometime later...

[Boltinloudguy]

Yep, you would think Jonathan Ogden would’ve done 40 or more reps, but he did 30. Most bench press champions flopped or were not starters.
Same with most overall combine champs.
Still high on Booker with his vision to pick up the blitz, character, and because he has it between the ears.

If it’s either Booker or Donovan Jackson in the 1st, I would not be surprised or disappointed. If they do go that route, I can see them trying to trade either Pip or Zion but not both.

[wu-dai clan]

Wow.
What great, condensed info
on this crazy EDGE class !
Chart of all charts.