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  • jamrock
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    • Sep 2017
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    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

    True.

    But part of this is that Jeanty can be a mismatch vs a Nickle DB.

    There was that one stinkin' play where Herbert hit Vidal a Wheel route.

    JK and Gus were pretty average as receivers.

    My suspicion is that GRo would not hestitate to exploit this trait.
    He'd be stupid not to but maybe that's the answer

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    • Boltinloudguy
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      • Nov 2021
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      How about they call the Jets and offer them 55 for RB Breece Hall? Hall and Harris could be a mean combo.

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      • Lone Bolt
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        Man...as I cjrcle back and take second looks at all of the prospects, I always find guys who just didnt catch my eye the first time around...but when I look closer...

        I feel like I slept on DJ Giddens...good size, excellant and effecient production, in both run and pass game...one of the best testers athleticly...good size/frame...and when you put on the tape, you see nice vision, and some nasty moves...he got wiggle...but also some tough running in there too...plenty of broken tackles...and...a nice collection of explosive plays...

        I feel like he isnt the best prospect in any one aspect of a RB's game....but he is AMONG the best, or at least really good, at EVERYTHING......

        There are a ton of players I like in the DT, RB, Edge, and TE classes...I cant mock all of them to us...but I like em'...Giddens is on the approved list.
        Grant, Loveland, Hampton, Tmac, Golden, Harmon, Pearce, Nolan, Ezeiruaku, Zabel, Barron...and...IDFC where he ranks on public boards...Donovan Jackson

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        • eaterfan
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          • Oct 2020
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          Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

          True.

          But part of this is that Jeanty can be a mismatch vs a Nickle DB.

          There was that one stinkin' play where Herbert hit Vidal a Wheel route.

          JK and Gus were pretty average as receivers.

          My suspicion is that GRo would not hestitate to exploit this trait.
          The RBs at every stop he goes to have way fewer receptions than their careers before or after. His offenses aren't designed to get the RB involved in the pass have nearly as often as other offenses.

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          • Boltnut
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            • Feb 2019
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            This draft is pretty unimpressive at the top. Luckily, it's deep at many positions... positions we need.
            Loveland and Hampton are my favorites... I hope they last. They probably won't.

            I wouldn't trade draft capital away to move up... and I doubt people will be giving away their picks to us in order to move up.
            It is what it is. I'd try to get one of the five top TE's (1st or 2nd rounds)... other than that position, you can get good (not great) players at positions of need (Edge, RB, DT, WR, CB, IOL) through the 5th round... and some sneaky good IOL's into the 6th round.

            Build good depth this draft.
            OLineCentric

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            • wu-dai clan
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              • May 2017
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              Originally posted by eaterfan View Post

              The RBs at every stop he goes to have way fewer receptions than their careers before or after. His offenses aren't designed to get the RB involved in the pass have nearly as often as other offenses.
              I do not expect our offense tp greatly resemble GRo offenses of the past.

              Part of this is personnel. Part of it is NFL defensive trends. And part of it is GRo, and others with input taking us in new directions.

              See Justice Hill.
              HarmonDT ArroyoTE GillotteEDGE NealRB NWilliamsCB FeltonWR CorneliusOL SJamesLB BiggersDT LarisonRB ...v4 Apr 1st

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              • Chargers8491
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                • Apr 2022
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                Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post
                Man...as I cjrcle back and take second looks at all of the prospects, I always find guys who just didnt catch my eye the first time around...but when I look closer...

                I feel like I slept on DJ Giddens...good size, excellant and effecient production, in both run and pass game...one of the best testers athleticly...good size/frame...and when you put on the tape, you see nice vision, and some nasty moves...he got wiggle...but also some tough running in there too...plenty of broken tackles...and...a nice collection of explosive plays...

                I feel like he isnt the best prospect in any one aspect of a RB's game....but he is AMONG the best, or at least really good, at EVERYTHING......

                There are a ton of players I like in the DT, RB, Edge, and TE classes...I cant mock all of them to us...but I like em'...Giddens is on the approved list.
                I think I am on the Giddens/Harvey bandwagon in the 3r or 4th.Trying to make a mock draft that makes sense is mind-numbing...lol
                Adopted Bolt: QJ

                SEASON: 2024 (Final)
                REC: 55
                YARDS: 711
                TDS: 8

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                • Boltnut
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                  Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                  I do not expect our offense tp greatly resemble GRo offenses of the past.

                  Part of this is personnel. Part of it is NFL defensive trends. And part of it is GRo, and others with input taking us in new directions.

                  See Justice Hill.
                  They upgraded @RG (Becton v Pipkins). I think that signifies that they will largely stick with Roman's philosophy... run the ball well... pass the ball off of play action. Zion is not as bad as everybody proclaims (65.7 pff). I wish there was a 1st-round caliber center... there is not. They will probably start looking for a center to develop (3rd round on down) and let him compete @center with Bozeman/James. The "loser" probably becomes depth at LG.

                  They will definitely look for someone to pair with Najee. We'll see how Najee does with a power-gap blocking scheme.
                  If we're lucky enough to get Hampton in the 1st round, then we are set for the next 4-5 years @RB.
                  Najee's 3.9 ypc isn't nearly as good as I thought it would be.

                  The top-5 TE's could help out the passing game... take some pressure off of Ladd and QJ. QJ is not as bad as everyone proclaims either. He's not an WR-X... but he has traits that enable him to do things as a WR with YAC capabilities. MW is an X-WR... so he will be given an opportunity to produce. I'd draft an X-WR to develop... with the idea that he takes over in a year.

                  Depth at Edge, DT, and CB is needed. Those positions are deep in the draft.
                  OLineCentric

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                  • powderblueboy
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                    • Jul 2017
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                    Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

                    They upgraded @RG (Becton v Pipkins). I think that signifies that they will largely stick with Roman's philosophy... run the ball well... pass the ball off of play action. Zion is not as bad as everybody proclaims (65.7 pff). I wish there was a 1st-round caliber center... there is not. They will probably start looking for a center to develop (3rd round on down) and let him compete @center with Bozeman/James. The "loser" probably becomes depth at LG.
                    Harbaugh, again just last week, talked about trying Zion out at center.

                    Talked about the open left guard position as a result and how Pip - probably, is currently the leading candidate to take over that position.

                    The master plan now is coming into focus.

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                    • powderblueboy
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                      • Jul 2017
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                      Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post

                      I think I am on the Giddens/Harvey bandwagon in the 3r or 4th.Trying to make a mock draft that makes sense is mind-numbing...lol
                      Boltnut is right, there are a lot of good rbs and wide receivers to allow the Chargers to wait.

                      Hampton or Golden or Ebu would be fine .... but honestly, they can wait.

                      I'm moving back towards Booker at #22 .... but I'm not hip to early day 3 guys at all.
                      Just can't pull the trigger on an edge or DT.

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                      • electricgold
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                        • Apr 2020
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                        Originally posted by Boltnut View Post
                        This draft is pretty unimpressive at the top. Luckily, it's deep at many positions... positions we need.
                        Loveland and Hampton are my favorites... I hope they last. They probably won't.

                        I wouldn't trade draft capital away to move up... and I doubt people will be giving away their picks to us in order to move up.
                        It is what it is. I'd try to get one of the five top TE's (1st or 2nd rounds)... other than that position, you can get good (not great) players at positions of need (Edge, RB, DT, WR, CB, IOL) through the 5th round... and some sneaky good IOL's into the 6th round.

                        Build good depth this draft.
                        Because the need for weapons for Herbert is so great, if Tyler Warren fell to 13 or 14 Id trade up for him! Only other play Id consider trading up for is Jeanty. To me those are the two potential generational players in the first round.

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                        • Boltjolt
                          Dont let the PBs fool ya
                          • Jun 2013
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                          Originally posted by Boltinloudguy View Post
                          How about they call the Jets and offer them 55 for RB Breece Hall? Hall and Harris could be a mean combo.
                          I wanted us to draft Hall in round 2 that year. Id love to get him but would JH resign him after the season? Cant give up a 2nd rd pick for 1 season.

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