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  • Boltjolt
    Dont let the PBs fool ya
    • Jun 2013
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    Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post

    Exactly. I was responding to this: "He is not BPA at 22."

    Nobody here can possibly know that as fact.
    True. JH2 board is their board.

    I'm have no comments on OL who are worth what in this draft as I've studied none of them. I'm for signing a couple FAs there and drafting depth who can maybe start down the road so I haven't watched ANY.

    Leaving that to the trenchers here. I didn't even watch the last day of the combine because watching OL do drills is a snooze fest for me.

    However, I'd venture to GUESS, Zabel being where he is from and limited OC snaps from highschool, . ...as a rookie he may struggle there and then we are possibly weak at OC again this year. But who knows.

    At #22 if he is there along with Hampton, Loveland, Grant , Golden,... Any of those guys,. ...I'm passing. But that's me.
    ​​​​ I'm going to also guess/hope we have something in place at OC before the draft,.....not named Bozeman

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    • Chargers8491
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      From my understanding there are approximately 18 players in this draft that have a true rnd 1 grade then after that there are a ton of players that are very closely ranked. In other words, there isn't much of a drop off for a while. I'm thinking that if that is the case, if one of these guys drop to #22 you take them if not then maybe it's better to trade back.
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      SEASON: 2024 (Final)
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      TDS: 8

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      • DerwinBosa
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        • Feb 2022
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        Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
        However, I'd venture to GUESS, Zabel being where he is from and limited OC snaps from highschool, . ...as a rookie he may struggle there and then we are possibly weak at OC again this year. But who knows.

        At #22 if he is there along with Hampton, Loveland, Grant , Golden,... Any of those guys,. ...I'm passing. But that's me.
        I personally have no "cluster" at #22. Grey Zabel is not a prospect I'm all that interested in, but if he is the pick I will have no problem with it, because Hortiz and Harbaugh will view him as the best player available, and that will be good enough for me.

        I also THINK that Derrick Harmon is being overlooked by many on this forum. I think he may be a better prospect than Kenneth Grant. But that's just me.

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        • Chargers8491
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          Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

          True. JH2 board is their board.

          I'm have no comments on OL who are worth what in this draft as I've studied none of them. I'm for signing a couple FAs there and drafting depth who can maybe start down the road so I haven't watched ANY.

          Leaving that to the trenchers here. I didn't even watch the last day of the combine because watching OL do drills is a snooze fest for me.

          However, I'd venture to GUESS, Zabel being where he is from and limited OC snaps from highschool, . ...as a rookie he may struggle there and then we are possibly weak at OC again this year. But who knows.

          At #22 if he is there along with Hampton, Loveland, Grant , Golden,... Any of those guys,. ...I'm passing. But that's me.
          ​​​ I'm going to also guess/hope we have something in place at OC before the draft,.....not named Bozeman
          That's exactly what I'm thinking. Also, I'm thinking if there are several of these guys available @ #22 then maybe a trade back isn't a bad thing. Of course, they would have to find a partner.
          Adopted Bolt: QJ

          SEASON: 2024 (Final)
          REC: 55
          YARDS: 711
          TDS: 8

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          • Javia
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            • Dec 2023
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            Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post

            I personally have no "cluster" at #22. Grey Zabel is not a prospect I'm all that interested in, but if he is the pick I will have no problem with it, because Hortiz and Harbaugh will view him as the best player available, and that will be good enough for me.

            I also THINK that Derrick Harmon is being overlooked by many on this forum. I think he may be a better prospect than Kenneth Grant. But that's just me.
            I am a Harmon fan as well.

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            • wu-dai clan
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              Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post
              I think I would pass on Zabel in rnd #1. There is better value there than Zabel, IMHO. There's just too many "? marks" for me, but that's just me.
              Let me just say in closing that it is recognized and respected that this board disagrees with me.

              I see talent level, enough scheme flexibility and position of need to warrant Zabel at #22.

              Whatever anyones strategy is, it remains true IMHO that we are not going anywhere unless or until we find our Center.
              EgbukeWR ArroyoTE NealRB SorellEDGE Ingram-DawkinsDL RogersOL HorsleyDT MickensDB YarnsRB BayerC ...v5 Apr 14

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              • Boltjolt
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                • Jun 2013
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                Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post

                That's exactly what I'm thinking. Also, I'm thinking if there are several of these guys available @ #22 then maybe a trade back isn't a bad thing. Of course, they would have to find a partner.
                I could see that too and wouldnt be against it.

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                • DerwinBosa
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                  • Feb 2022
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                  A pretty good article on what some anonymous scouts are saying about prospects who may be overlooked right now. I look forward to reading about what more scouts think when Bob McGinn starts publishing his articles closer to the draft. And no, I am not posting this because of Kyle McCord. Lol.

                  I don't think this is a ranking of the prospects 1-8. I think it's just a random order Matt Hayes put them in. I couldn't care less about the combine - I still really like Fannin. I'm not really a fan of Sampson or Ferguson, but it's interesting to read what scouts think. Ozzy Trapilo and Oluwafemi Oladejo could be interesting possibilities in the late rounds.


                  1. TE Harold Fannin Jr., Bowling Green

                  NFL combine measurements: 6-feet-4, 230 pounds.

                  Fannin had 117 catches – yes, 117 – in 2024, and 161 catches and 16 touchdowns over the last two seasons. He’s not your typical tight end, and some in the NFL see him as a receiver.

                  NFL scout: “He reminds me of Evan Engram. Really athletic, long and has a large catch radius. He’s not going to line up and move a pile, but he’s going to catch just about everything thrown at him. Offense in this league is third and medium, and how you can convert (third downs). He can get open and go get it. That has real value.”


                  2. QB Kyle McCord, Syracuse

                  NFL combine measurements: 6-3, 218.

                  Showed range of throws and a better understanding of pass concepts in Year 2 as a starter, despite playing with a new team. The significant second-year jump in production (4,779 yards passing, 34 TDs) shows development and future potential.

                  NFL scout: “He’s a big guy, a tough guy, and he’s surprisingly athletic. He can stand in there and make every throw. He’s far from a finished product, and he’s not stepping on the field and playing right away. But I like how he challenges defenses, how he doesn’t get rattled. He forces some stuff, but that can be coached. The tools are there. I can absolutely see him starting in this league.”


                  3. RB Dylan Sampson, Tennessee

                  NFL combine measurements: 5-8, 200.

                  Rushed for 1,492 yards and 22 touchdowns in his only season as a starter. Injured in the College Football Playoff first-round game against Ohio State, and the Tennessee offense wasn’t the same. Had 35 career touchdowns on 422 carries, or an average of a touchdown every 12 carries.

                  NFL scout: “These one-shot players scare the hell out of me. There are two ways to look at it: you get your opportunity and make the most of it, or you’re in a money year with a chance to get to the NFL, and you crank it up. Then what happens once you arrive? He has some valuable skills, both in the run and pass games. He has the wiggle to make you miss, and surprising power in the isolation run game. He has really impressive inside vision, and a dangerous one cut. Plant the foot and accelerate. But does he have the size to take the pounding of a feature back?”

                  4. TE Terrance Ferguson, Oregon

                  NFL combine measurements: 6-5, 247

                  Had career highs in catches (43), yards (591) and average per catch (13.7) in 2024, and had 16 career touchdown catches. A former blue-chip recruit who was a critical factor in the Oregon pass game for much of the last three seasons.


                  NFL scout: “Crazy athleticism. He’s long and has those athletic advantages, but needs to work on separation. It’s hard getting open in this league. You’re not taking those long steps like he takes and gaining separation. He’s not a guy who can hold the point of attack against an edge rusher, so forget that. But there are a few pass-catching tight ends in our league who can't do that, either. It’s hard to ignore his ball skills and body control.”

                  5. OT Ozzy Trapilo, Boston College

                  NFL combine measurements: 6-8, 316.

                  All-ACC first team in 2024, and second team in 2023, and had 36 career starts. Played both left and right tackle.

                  NFL scout: “There are some who are turned off by the height because the taller you get at that position, the more you lack natural flexibility. My concern is the weight. He needs to fill out more, and be more of a factor in the run game. But the ceiling is attractive. He can play either (left or right) side., and knows how to use his length and hands.”


                  6. G Wyatt Milum,, West Virginia

                  NFL combine measurements: 6-6, 313.

                  All-Big 12 first team in 2024, and second team in 2023, and had 43 career starts at tackle.

                  NFL scout: “He’s not a tackle in this league. He’s just not long enough. But that doesn’t mean he can’t slide inside and use that toughness and ferocity. He’s a mauler, a big guy with some explosion in the run game. He can anchor. You’re not going to push him around or bull rush him. When I think about the interior in our league, he's the type of guy you need. It takes a special kind of nasty to get in there and do that work.”


                  7. DT Darius Alexander, Toledo

                  NFL combine measurements: 6-4, 305.

                  Had 42 career starts, with nine career sacks and 12 pass breakups. Had 22 career tackles for loss.

                  NFL scout: “You watch the tape, and he’s capable of destruction. He’s a disrupter. But can he do it consistently? He has a strong lower body, and there were times when he was immovable in 1 or 3 technique. He’s a three (technique) in our league, but he’s also a three-down guy. Look at his length. He’s knocking down passes at the line of scrimmage because he understands timing in the pass rush. A lot of interior guys won’t embrace that. He had 12 career PBUs. Twelve. How often do you see that?”


                  8. OLB/Edge Oluwafemi Oladejo, UCLA

                  NFL combine measurements: 6-3, 259.

                  A three-year starter, he had 180 career tackles and six sacks.

                  NFL scout: “He got lost among (Laiatu) Latu and (Gabriel) Murphy in 2023. He moved outside on the edge last season, and there was dramatic change. He was just a guy in the middle the first two seasons, but he showed explosion last season, and the ability to use his hands to create separation. A completely different player. Has to get home with a greater frequency, but doesn't lack the instincts to do so. It's relative inexperience at the position, and the need for more reps. He has big upside.”
                  Forget about first-round NFL draft locks. Here are eight college football standouts that are potential steals next month.

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                  • Chargers8491
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                    • Apr 2022
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                    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                    Let me just say in closing that it is recognized and respected that this board disagrees with me.

                    I see talent level, enough scheme flexibility and position of need to warrant Zabel at #22.

                    Whatever anyones strategy is, it remains true IMHO that we are not going anywhere unless or until we find our Center.
                    No worries brother!

                    It's not that I don't like Zabel it's just I think there are too many question marks to take him @ 22. 2nd or 3rd rnd sign me up. If the Chargers go with him @ 22, I'm good with it. They know better than me...lol

                    I think almost everyone of us agree that the Chargers need an upgrade at OC and at least 1 OG position. We all just have different opinions on how to get there and that is fine.

                    Adopted Bolt: QJ

                    SEASON: 2024 (Final)
                    REC: 55
                    YARDS: 711
                    TDS: 8

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                    • CanadianBoltFan
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                      • Jul 2022
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                      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                      Let me just say in closing that it is recognized and respected that this board disagrees with me.

                      I see talent level, enough scheme flexibility and position of need to warrant Zabel at #22.

                      Whatever anyones strategy is, it remains true IMHO that we are not going anywhere unless or until we find our Center.
                      You are not that far off base. Jeremiah had him around 29 before combine and just said on Move the Sticks he is moving up and could be as high as 20. Chargers are in the range. I said earlier I tink the Chargers could pick him

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                      • Critty
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                        Who has it better than us?

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                        • beachcomber
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                          Originally posted by 21&500 View Post

                          My bad I didn't mean it literally, I just meant to say that I see a guy perfect for Roman's run scheme.
                          Center who can double up and easily release into the 2nd level. Also stout in pass pro.
                          would not call his pass pro stout....
                          DT Grant, OG Donovan, ED Tuimoloau, OC Jared, TE Oronde, RB Martinez,​​ Raheim, WR TeSlaa, LB Cody Simon, Teddye, CB Jacobee Bryant
                          WR Keenan

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