Official 2025 NFL Draft Superthread | Prospect Discussion

[beachcomber]

Teddye Buchanan (Cal)

Measurables: Height (6-2 1/8), Weight (233), Arm Length (31 3/8), Wingspan (75 3/8), Hand (9 3/8)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (4.6), 10-Yard Split (1.59), Vertical Jump (40), Broad Jump (10’5″), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (26)

NFL Draft Stock Report: East-West (4), Game

Bit rugged but moving alright. Solid B level stuff. Nothing crazy but belongs. Doing well in the sprint, change, sprint, drill. Athletically belongs. In totality, really nice workout. Fast, elite jump numbers, strong. Looked good at the East-West. Might be something here.

Jay Higgins (Iowa)

Measurables: Height (6-0 1/8), Weight (224), Arm Length (31), Wingspan (75), Hand (9 1/2)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (4.82), 10-Yard Split (1.64), Vertical Jump (33), Broad Jump (9’2″), 3-Cone (7.01), 20-Yard Shuffle (4.35), Bench (N/A)

Slow but credit to him for running. Good football player. Bends fine. In control. Limited athlete. Classic Big 10 linebacker. Has technique. Does a good job just keeping his feet moving. Old school Big 10 linebacker. Maybe he can be another Josey Jewell. Feels like the best case. Slow as dirt is being run out of the game. No bench either. If you’re going to be slow, at least prove you’re strong…

Smael Mondon Jr. (Georgia)

Measurables: Height (6-2 2/8), Weight (224), Arm Length (31 3/4), Wingspan (80 1/8), Hand (9 3/4)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (4.58), 10-Yard Split (1.52), Vertical Jump (N/A), Broad Jump (10’10”), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (N/A)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 1, Week 5, Week 12, Week 14, Conference Championships, Sugar Bowl, Senior Bowl (3), Game

Was hoping for faster but the time was plenty good enough. Really nice feet in the wave. Light on his feet and can fire to his spot. Needs better eye level in the bags. Had issues catching the ball. Didn’t show off power. He’s all gear. Burst is there. Took a ball to the face. Bit skittish the next drill. Best broad jump in the group by a mile.

Smael Mondon Jr. Wave Drill#NFLCombine pic.twitter.com/tDTDjaiDTV

— WalkTheMock (@WalkTheMock) February 28, 2025

3: Smael Mondon (Georgia)

[beachcomber]

Jordan Burch (Oregon)

Measurables: Height (6-4 1/8), Weight (279), Arm Length (33), Wingspan (79 3/8), Hand (9 1/2)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (4.66), 10-Yard Split (1.66), Vertical Jump (N/A), Broad Jump (N/A), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (N/A)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 6, Week 7, Conference Championships, Rose Bowl

Has the tools but didn’t see the wow speed. Feet really bad in the wave. One thing to be a tick slow. Can’t be tripping over yourself. Happened in the wave trying to change direction. Better in the bag agility. Play speed not there. Not impressed. Expected way more. Underachiever vibes. For as naturally gifted as he is, comes off as lazy. Do the rest of the testing buddy. Get in the weight room. Take care of yourself.

Donovan Ezeiruaku (Boston College)

Measurables: Height (6-2 1/2), Weight (248), Arm Length (34), Wingspan (82 3/4), Hand (9 1/4)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (N/A), 10-Yard Split (N/A), Vertical Jump (35.5), Broad Jump (9’11”), 3-Cone (6.94), 20-Yard Shuffle (4.19), Bench (22)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 1, Senior Bowl (1), (2), (3)

Did not run. Bit clunky in the wave but can move. Nice feet in the bag drills. Hands in line. Nice turning the corner in bags. Nice bend. Has the arms going. Good job dropping in coverage. Has plus length on his side. Thought it was a solid day but wouldn’t say he blew the doors off.

Donovan Ezeiruaku's hips stay the same height the entire time. This is how the drill is done. pic.twitter.com/F3MENK0vXx

— Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) March 3, 2025

Ashton Gillotte (Louisville)

Measurables: Height (6-2 5/8), Weight (264), Arm Length (31 7/8), Wingspan (78 5/8), Hand (8 1/2)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (N/A), 10-Yard Split (N/A), Vertical Jump (36.5), Broad Jump (10’0″), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (24)

Did not run. Plant gets stuck. Don’t see it. Ate it on the rushing. Out of control in the hoop. The type of guy who someone will draft in the middle rounds, get no value out of, then wonder what happened.

Jared Ivey (Mississippi)

Measurables: Height (6-5 7/8), Weight (274), Arm Length (33 1/2), Wingspan (82 3/4), Hand (9 1/8)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 5, Week 6, Week 11, Week 13, Senior Bowl (2), (3)

Did not run. Zero athletic testing didn’t do any of the events minus on field. The on field wasn’t nearly good enough to just skip everything else. Ate in the the wave. Going a bit faster than he can handle. Bit out of control and too high but something there. Can’t keep the towel in the zone in the hoop. Wanted more. Definitely lagging behind the other Ole Miss guys.

Landon Jackson (Arkansas)

Measurables: Height (6-6), Weight (264), Arm Length (33 1/4), Wingspan (83 5/8), Hand (10)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (4.68), 10-Yard Split (1.65), Vertical Jump (40.5), Broad Jump (10’9″), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (N/A)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 6, Week 12, Senior Bowl (1), (2), (3), Game

Jumped out of the gym. Really nice 10-yard time but okay 40 time. Lost a bit of juice down the stretch. Bit clunky but overall good. Can move and wants to be an athlete. Knee bend solid. Eyes are good. Using instincts. Great job in bag drills. Nice handwork. Plus athlete. Looked good rushing. Excellent in the hoop with good play speed.

On the whole it was a really nice day. Especially adding in those insane jump numbers. Has a gear to him with plus size. Not lighting but plus first step. He’s something.

This was the drill I was most excited to see Landon Jackson run

It can be hard for high-cut guys like him to get through this clean – I thought this was impressive from the @RazorbackFB star pass rusher #NFLCombine pic.twitter.com/N2qOViokFc

— Fran Duffy (@FDuffyNFL) February 28, 2025

Jah Joyner (Minnesota)

Measurables: Height (6-4 1/4), Weight (262), Arm Length (34), Wingspan (82 1/4), Hand (9 3/8)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (4.6), 10-Yard Split (1.67), Vertical Jump (30), Broad Jump (N/A), 3-Cone (7.33), 20-Yard Shuffle (4.68), Bench (N/A)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Senior Bowl Game

Way too high. Bad knee bend. Can’t bend. Sucks. Not a guy. Horrible spin rushing. Coaches yelling at him to get lower in the hoop. Takes him too long to do anything. Did pretty much everything except bench. Swimmer vibes. Wasn’t going to be strong. Nothing to write home about here.

Kyle Kennard (South Carolina)

Measurables: Height (6-4), Weight (254), Arm Length (34), Wingspan (81 1/2), Hand (9 3/4)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (4.73), 10-Yard Split (1.63), Vertical Jump (N/A), Broad Jump (N/A), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (23)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 3, Week 7, Cheez-It Citrus Bowl, Senior Bowl (2), (3)

Spazzy but is moving okay. Kinda underwhelming. Back bending. Kinda slow. Coaches yelling at him to stay low. Not easy turning corners. Lacks smoothness. Was he an older guy who worked his way to being more dominant or are there actual natural gifts here? I’m not super convinced he’s a dude, dude.

James Pearce Jr. (Tennessee)

Measurables: Height (6-5 1/4), Weight (245), Arm Length (32 3/4), Wingspan (80 7/8), Hand (10)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (4.47), 10-Yard Split (1.56), Vertical Jump (31), Broad Jump (10’3″), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (N/A)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 2, Week 7, Week 8, Week 12, Week 14, College Football Playoff First Round

First step in the 40 really noticeable. Good run times but noticeable burst. Has electric in him. 10-yard time stupid good. Smooth and real athlete. Nailed the wave drill. Totally crushed it. Clinic stuff. Sideways movement skills off the charts. Eyes up. Oily hips. Can really go to his spot. He’s the best one here and it’s not close. Lighting it up in bag ability. So obvious he’s best one here. It’s not even a contest. Everything looks easy. Definitely the king of this group for the 2025 NFL Scouting Combine.

James Pearce Jr. reportedly could have potentially made himself “upwards of $10 million” with his combine performance today.

Several NFL scouts reportedly believe Pearce “firmly moved himself into” the Top-12 discussion whereas before he was a projected late first round pick.… pic.twitter.com/zyPoRq7rcA

— NFL Rookie Watch (@NFLRookieWatxh) February 28, 2025

Antwaun Powell-Ryland (Virginia Tech)

Measurables: Height (6-2 5/8), Weight (258), Arm Length (31 1/4), Wingspan (76 1/8), Hand (9 5/8)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (4.69), 10-Yard Split (1.64), Vertical Jump (36.5), Broad Jump (10’4″), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (N/A)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 5, East-West (1), (3), (4)

Slower than I thought. Pure rusher sack artist but no real high end speed. Feet are alright but drastic change compared to Pearce the rep before. Bit stumbly transitioning. Lost footing around the corner. Using his hands to stay on balance. Otherwise would trip more. Needs to bend better. Don’t think he has that in him. Production was there but how NFL good is he?

Jack Sawyer (Ohio State)

Measurables: Height (6-4 1/4), Weight (260), Arm Length (31 3/4), Wingspan (77 1/8), Hand (9 3/4)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 6, Week 7, Week 10, Week 13, Week 14, College Football Playoff First Round, Rose Bowl, Cotton Bowl, National Championship

Did not run. Zero athletic testing. Only did on field. Bent his knees great. Very smooth. No issues. Hands in rhythm with feet. Definitely has something to him. Some slippage in there. Really nice doing the hoop. Feet and change of direction are a plus.

Jack Sawyer was slipping during his Four Bag Agility drill.#NFLCombinepic.twitter.com/I9hDjyeEek

— Depressed New York Fan (@JudgeEnjoyer) February 27, 2025

Nic Scourton (Texas A&M)

Measurables: Height (6-2 3/8), Weight (257), Arm Length (33), Wingspan (80 7/8), Hand (10)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 1, Week 3, Week 5, Week 6, Week 9, Week 10, Week 14

Did not run. Didn’t attempt any of the athletic testing. Did do the on field. Trying to move fast in drills. Changing direction okay but something off about him. Play speed is a plus but times he’s out of control. Absolutely trash trying to rush. Lost a shoe. Keeps falling over. Had to quit halfway through out of clumsiness. Eyes down bad in the hoop. Called it quits early. No body control. Based on how he looked, I highly doubt he would have tested well. Probably not a coincidence.

Josaiah Stewart (Michigan)

Measurables: Height (6-1), Weight (249), Arm Length (31 7/8), Wingspan (79), Hand (9 1/2)

Did not workout. Not nearly good enough to skip so I’m not sure what his problem is. Was healthy at the Senior Bowl. For that let’s disregard the notes on him and keep things moving. If he thinks he can join the Mason Graham club he’s delulu.

Shemar Stewart (Texas A&M)

Measurables: Height (6-5), Weight (267), Arm Length (34 1/8), Wingspan (84 3/4), Hand (9 5/8)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (4.59), 10-Yard Split (1.58), Vertical Jump (40), Broad Jump (10’11”), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (N/A)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Senior Bowl (2), (3)

Ran and jumped but nothing else. The run time was good but the 10-yard time is very impressive. Jumping numbers really good too. Maybe tweaked something running but I’m not totally sure. Either way this whole thing is still a con job. You can’t take a guy in the first round who has shown zero evidence of actually being a good football player. I’ll have a separate post out on that in the coming days. Football is a game of physical toughness. If he was really a trait monster that was really going to be a guaranteed hit, why not show off the strength? Politics. That’s why.

JT Tuimoloau (Ohio State)

Measurables: Height (6-4 1/4), Weight (265), Arm Length (33 3/4), Wingspan (82 3/8), Hand (10 1/2)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 7, Week 10, Week 13, College Football Playoff First Round, Rose Bowl, National Championship

Did not workout. Would have been nice but don’t care. Dude is nasty and has shown it plenty.

Princely Umanmielen (Mississippi)

Measurables: Height (6-4 3/8), Weight (244), Arm Length (33 7/8), Wingspan (82 1/8), Hand (9 5/8)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (4.72), 10-Yard Split (1.62), Vertical Jump (38), Broad Jump (10’6″), 3-Cone (7.33), 20-Yard Shuffle (4.46), Bench (N/A)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 13, Senior Bowl (2), (3), Game

Long strides in the 40. Covers serious ground with the feet. Passable in the wave. Not as smooth in the bag agility as I hoped. Had to redo a rep. Showed better bend at Senior Bowl. Rushing was a plus. Coaches yelling at him for more energy. He’s not failing but I wanted a tick more.

Princely Umanmielen Hoop Drill #NFLCombine pic.twitter.com/1vGZsQFoar

— WalkTheMock (@WalkTheMock) February 28, 2025

Mykel Williams (Georgia)

Measurables: Height (6-5 1/8), Weight (260), Arm Length (34 3/8), Wingspan (82 7/8), Hand (10 1/4)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 1, Week 8, Week 14, Conference Championships, Sugar Bowl

Did not workout. Wasn’t healthy this year. Played through a lot. He’s going to go way too low because of it. Don’t listen to the idiots. This is a stud.

2: JT Tuimoloau (Ohio State)

3: Mykel Williams (Georgia)

4: James Pearce Jr. (Tennessee)

5: Jack Sawyer (Ohio State)

6: Sai’vion Jones (LSU)

7: Landon Jackson (Arkansas)

8: Donovan Ezeiruaku (Boston College)

9: Princely Umanmielen (Mississippi)

10: Mike Green (Marshall)

[beachcomber]

There is a lot of stinky mixed in here but I believe we found a few gems to be excited about to eventually target on draft day. Philadelphia won the Super Bowl because of their defensive line. It’s up to you to be smart enough to get that football is won at the line of scrimmage.

Howard Cross III, Notre Dame

Measurables: Height (6-1 3/8), Weight (285), Arm Length (32 1/4), Wingspan (78 5/8), Hand (10 1/2)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (N/A), 10-Yard Split (N/A), Vertical Jump (29), Broad Jump (8’8″), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (N/A)

Did not workout. Only jumped. Not a fan anyway. Not sure who this guy thinks he is but not nearly heralded enough to not do anything. Red Flag. Didn’t notice him at all during the season.

Kenneth Grant (Michigan)

Measurables: Height (6-3 5/8), Weight (331), Arm Length (33 1/2), Wingspan (82 5/8), Hand (10 1/8)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (N/A), 10-Yard Split (N/A), Vertical Jump (N/A), Broad Jump (N/A), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (22)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 2

Did not workout. Only benched. Think he’s better than Mazi Smith but unsure how much.

Omarr Norman-Lott (Tennessee)

Measurables: Height (6-1 7/8), Weight (291), Arm Length (33 3/4), Wingspan (80 1/2), Hand (10 3/4)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (N/A), 10-Yard Split (N/A), Vertical Jump (31.5), Broad Jump (9’5″), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (N/A)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Senior Bowl (1)

Did not run. Only jumped Horrible wave drill. Totally ate it. Spazz moving around. Cross off the list. Not in control. Sucks. Totally sucks. Too high around the corner. Ate it again going around the corner. Trash performance the whole day. Quit the day early no hoop drill. Totally stinks. Makes me want to puke from watching him. Has tough guy vibes while being charmin soft.

Aeneas Peebles (Virginia Tech)

Measurables: Height (6-0 1/2), Weight (282), Arm Length (31 3/8), Wingspan (78), Hand (9 5/8)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (4.94), 10-Yard Split (1.74), Vertical Jump (32.5), Broad Jump (9’1″), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (4.7), Bench (N/A)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Senior Bowl (1), (2), (3), Game

Nose tackle but faster than I anticipated. Can tell he’s a decent athlete. Tripping over himself in the wave. Foot are moving okay speed wise but he’s trying to go too fast for what he is. Trying to go too fast but his feet are there. Has a burst. Tight around the corner. He’s trying and succeeding. Not bad leverage. Wouldn’t say he’s nothing. Could be something here.

Elijah Simmons (Tennessee)

Measurables: Height (6-1), Weight (334), Arm Length (32 3/4), Wingspan (80), Hand (10 1/4)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (5.37), 10-Yard Split (1.88), Vertical Jump (32), Broad Jump (8’10”), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (N/A)

Definitely a nose tackle. Not a burner. Passed the test in the wave drill. For his size, he’s an A on the wave drill. Bit high but can actually sink the hips and go. Kinda blown away he’s moving like this at his size. Real club move. Strong dude. Movement skills are a yes. Deserves a ton of credit. Has very little starting experience at Tennessee. Could be a role for him but we know what that role is. Plug the hole fat guy role.

Nazir Stackhouse (Georgia)

Measurables: Height (6-3 6/8), Weight (327), Arm Length (32 1/2), Wingspan (78 1/8), Hand (10 1/4)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (5.15), 10-Yard Split (1.8), Vertical Jump (27.5), Broad Jump (8’9″), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (N/A)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 14, East-West (1), (2), (3), (4)

Ran okay given his frame. Deserves credit for that. Had a bit of a burst too. Really nice wave drill. Wide base and can turn well. Carries the weight well. Doesn’t get the feet too high off the ground. Hips turning aren’t an issue. Another great rep in body control. Should get some appreciation from this.

Deone Walker (Kentucky)

Measurables: Height (6-7 3/8), Weight (331), Arm Length (34 1/4), Wingspan (84 1/8), Hand (10 5/8)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (N/A), 10-Yard Split (N/A), Vertical Jump (25), Broad Jump (8’8″), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (N/A)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Senior Bowl (1), (2), (3)

Did not run. Back bender. Can’t bend at all. Feet are alright but his base is weird. Looks top heavy. The more I watch the more worried I am. How is a guy who moves like this and looks like this going to be a game changer? Red flags meter is churning. Has Darren McFadden legs compared to his upper body. Knee bend is joke bad territory. He’s driving me nuts to watch him.

CJ West (Indiana)

Measurables: Height (6-1 1/8), Weight (316), Arm Length (31 1/2), Wingspan (79 1/8), Hand (9 3/4)

Athletic Testing: 40-Yard Dash (4.95), 10-Yard Split (1.73), Vertical Jump (33), Broad Jump (N/A), 3-Cone (N/A), 20-Yard Shuffle (N/A), Bench (N/A)

NFL Draft Stock Report: East-West (1), (2), (3), (4)

Can bend and move the feet. His first move is better than when he has to keep doing it. Good in the bag drills. Legit helped himself. Doesn’t bend in terms of being low as much as you want. Don’t see overly powerful but has a pretty good first step he needs to win with. In college, he kinda did. Not sure he will in the NFL. Would say he looked better at the East-West compared to the 2025 NFL Scouting Combine.

Tyleik Williams (Ohio State)

Measurables: Height (6-2 6/7), Weight (334), Arm Length (32), Wingspan (78 5/8), Hand (10 1/4)

NFL Draft Stock Report: Week 13, Rose Bowl, Cotton Bowl, National Championship

Did not run. Didn’t do any of the testing. Very damn good job churning the feet. Looked like a natural. Excellent moving around. Eyes are up and getting through the bags well. Very impressed. Great base. Can really get down and get out of his stance. Could argue he was the best performer in the group. Did everything well. Fantastic again in the hoop drill. Has a knee bend and can get to where they need to be. For his size he legit wowed. One of the big time winners at the 2025 NFL Scouting Combine considering he wasn’t at any of the All-Star events. Likely for Ohio State making a deep run.

Tyleik Williams is showing out today pic.twitter.com/VLVCnlvo3D

— Billy M (@BillyM_91) February 27, 2025

2: Walter Nolen (Ole Miss)

3: Tyleik Williams (Ohio State)

4: Ty Robinson (Nebraska)

5: Kenneth Grant (Michigan)

6: JJ Pegues (Ole Miss)

7: TJ Sanders (South Carolina)

8: Deone Walker (Kentucky)

9: Darius Alexander (Toledo)

10: Elijah Simmons (Tennessee)

[Boltnut]

Once the initial wave of free agency happens, we will obviously have a better understanding of where we stand.

This draft is soooo deep at TE, RB and especially IDL.

I am reserving picks 123, 159, 177 & 182 for that, leaving early picks to address other needs, BPAs.

Strategy.

Yes, free agent signings will give us a better understanding.
The TE, RB, IDL groups may be deep, as you say.
But who will be the BPA @#22?
Does Joe pass him up just because the position has a deep group...? Not his style.
The RB and TE you get in the 4th/5th round won't be nearly as good as the RB and TE @#22.
They are worlds apart... and most of them don't fit anyhow.
What round does the Rimington Award winner go...?

[Boltnut]

Boltnut
powderblueboy

Javia
et al

When adding it all up.
In this draft class.
Given the Chargers PONs.
With this UFA IOL group.
Taking into consideration the price in this market.

I like the idea of selecting Zabel at #22.

Says Lance Zierlein:

• Able to unlock hips/ankles and set a sudden anchor.
• Quick to pass twisters and search for incoming traffic.

I know this board is itching to see Zion in the pivot.
I know that Zabel is too tall to play Center.
However, more and more pundits are now classifying Zabel as a C/G.
The athletic traits are indeed similar to Ragnow's, Humphrey's, Limmer's and Nick Hardwick's.
Of course Zierlein and wu did tout Billy Price.
But I respectfully suggest that you all are missing something here.

The info is available for consumption by all TPB draftniks, including the lazy azz ones, and it's not even behind a paywall, you tightwads.

With Joey Bosa cut, the Chargers will have the money to sign players... the PON will shrink considerably before the draft.
The smartest money they can spend is bringing Mack, Ford, and Tart back.
Also, smart money should be spent on the IOL in free agency. Build those trenches. We have $83+m in cap space.
I am not hanging my hopes on a small school tackle-to-center prospect (Zabel).
He'll get his lunch money stolen by Chris Jones and Christian Wilkens every Sunday morning.
This isn't Fargo. This isn't Mobile. I don't care what Lance Zierlein thinks.
I've watched at least as much NDSU OL tape as him over the years... it breaks my heart every year.
If you could replace Pippy with proven-scheme-fit Kevin Zeitler... wouldn't you do it?
I'm still a trencher... my credentials are current (Joe Alt).
But I'm also BPA... and Zabel is no where near the talent of Ragnow or Humphrey.

[Stetson516]

Who is the 1 person REALISTICALLY in free agency (SIGN FOR WHAT $) or REALISTICALLY getting in the draft (WHAT ROUND) that makes you "not have to worry" about that position? Makes you feel really comfortable that it's taken care of?

[wu-dai clan]

With Joey Bosa cut, the Chargers will have the money to sign players... the PON will shrink considerably before the draft.
The smartest money they can spend is bringing Mack, Ford, and Tart back.
Also, smart money should be spent on the IOL in free agency. Build those trenches. We have $83+m in cap space.
I am not hanging my hopes on a small school tackle-to-center prospect (Zabel).
He'll get his lunch money stolen by Chris Jones and Christian Wilkens every Sunday morning.
This isn't Fargo. This isn't Mobile. I don't care what Lance Zierlein thinks.
I've watched at least as much NDSU OL tape as him over the years... it breaks my heart every year.
If you could replace Pippy with proven-scheme-fit Kevin Zeitler... wouldn't you do it?
I'm still a trencher... my credentials are current (Joe Alt).
But I'm also BPA... and Zabel is no where near the talent of Ragnow or Humphrey.

We deal with facts around here and Zabel is the #1 rated Center in this draft at a position of highest need.

He is slotted ~ @ #25. Grey held up well and with 5 position flexibility in Mobile, and in one-on-one reps vs a generationally strong DT population down there, if you need it.

There are caveats everywhere at UFA IOL in 2025, including price, expected bidding wars, player and scheme preferences, age, and medical status.

wu, Dane, Edholm, Lance are on to the second round, leaving poser trenchers and forty time fanboys in the dust.

[wu-dai clan]

Indiana, Washington State Pro Days right here and now.

Explosive CJ put up 27.

Hand held forty times improve by on average 0.18 seconds vs the ubiquitous industry standard electronic Zybek machines.

wu has FACTS.

[Jack Burton]

Indiana, Washington State Pro Days right here and now.

Explosive CJ put up 27.

Hand held forty times improve by on average 0.18 seconds vs the ubiquitous industry standard electronic Zybek machines.

wu has FACTS.

Is CJ West the next Poona Ford?

[wu-dai clan]

Is CJ West the next Poona Ford?

He would be more of a penetrating 3Tech, Tart type.
No one gets low and anchors like Poona--hope like hell he stays.
As great a prospect as Grant is, the DT depth is astounding.

[wu-dai clan]

Marcus Armstrong's spider chart destroys
all this TPB re-dick-er-ous-ness.
Gimme da Bison Center/Guard.

[Jack Burton]

He would be more of a penetrating 3Tech, Tart type.
No one gets low and anchors like Poona--hope like hell he stays.
As great a prospect as Grant is, the DT depth is astounding.

Yeah, we gotta keep Poona. I think it gets done. Same for Tart. But I’d like to have West in there as a rotation.
Poona and West would be two tree stumps on the D line