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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
I've posted before that I think we have a legit shot to win 10 or 11 games. But u could be right about 14...
maybe we beat steelers or ravens....?
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Just removing Staley as HC and defensive playcaller makes us better. Just rank the defense 15th and we win 3-4 games. Able to run the ball, 2 more games.
I think we sweep the Raiders, and Donkeys and we win 11-12 games.
I hope JH runs up the score in week 1 and gives a big Fuck You to Pierce who has said he wanted to score 70(though Jim wasn't here) and let him know he is the worst HC in the Div.
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View PostJust removing Staley as HC and defensive playcaller makes us better. Just rank the defense 15th and we win 3-4 games. Able to run the ball, 2 more games.
I think we sweep the Raiders, and Donkeys and we win 11-12 games.
I hope JH runs up the score in week 1 and gives a big Fuck You to Pierce who has said he wanted to score 70(though Jim wasn't here) and let him know he is the worst HC in the Div.
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I wanted to do a post on the chances of a Chargers rookie winning OROY or DROY. I wanted to know if an OL has ever won OROY. The answer is "no." OROY was started in 1967. RB has dominated OROY throughout the history of the award, followed by WR. What's interesting is in 1970, the year of the merger, a QB won OROY for the first time. A QB did not win OROY again until Ben Roethlisberger in 2004. Since then QB has dominated OROY, winning half of the 20 awards through the 2023 season, when CJ Stroud was OROY.
OL have received OROY 1st place votes. Rashawn Slater was the last OT to get an OROY vote, he finished 4th in 2021 with 1 vote. Chiefs C Creed Humphrey got 2. Interesting that Marcus McNeil also was 4th in OROY voting as a rookie in 2006, with 6 votes. The last OL to receive OROY votes was Ravens C Tyler Linderbaum with 5 in 2022, 7th most (2022 was a weak year for offensive rookies). Browns' LT Joe Thomas finished 2nd in OROY voting in 2007 with 3.5 votes to Adrian Peterson's 46.5. I only looked at voting back to 2004, so I don't know if any other OL has ever finished 2nd in OROY voting.
With so many 1st round QBs in this draft, it seems the odds are high of one of them wins OROY this season. But wouldn't it be interesting if Joe Alt became the first OL to win OROY? I don't know if Ladd McConkey will have an opportunity to win OROY. Puka Nacua was 2nd in OROY voting last season. But the Rams rode him hard as a rookie, he had 160 targets, catching 105 of those for 1486 yds. Yet he only received 2 OROY votes to C.J. Stroud's 48. I don't envision young Ladd getting that much opportunity.
But...Jets' WR Garrett Wilson won OROY (barely) in 2022. Wilson is the WR I see McConkey most often compared to. Similar size, speed and skill set. Wilson had 95 receptions for 1042 yds and 3 TDs as a rookie, on a team with a very unstable QB situation. Wilson was drafted 10th overall in 2022, the 2nd WR off the board behind Drake London. I guess there is a chance for McConkey, to win OROY, if none of the rookie QBs stand out. He was the 9th WR drafted at #34.
My dark, dark horse candidate for a Charger OROY would be Brenden Rice. If he has a Puka Nucua caliber rookie year and none of the rookie QBs stand out. Like I said, a very dark horse candidate.
The Chargers' best and probably only DROY candidate is Junior Colson. Although he wasn't drafted until #69, he was only the 2nd LB off the board. The Packers took Edgerrin Copper at #45. Interestingly, Junior Seau was 3rd in DOROY voting in 1990, receiving only 1 vote.
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Originally posted by Velo View PostI wanted to do a post on the chances of a Chargers rookie winning OROY or DROY. I wanted to know if an OL has ever won OROY. The answer is "no." OROY was started in 1967. RB has dominated OROY throughout the history of the award, followed by WR. What's interesting is in 1970, the year of the merger, a QB won OROY for the first time. A QB did not win OROY again until Ben Roethlisberger in 2004. Since then QB has dominated OROY, winning half of the 20 awards through the 2023 season, when CJ Stroud was OROY.
OL have received OROY 1st place votes. Rashawn Slater was the last OT to get an OROY vote, he finished 4th in 2021 with 1 vote. Chiefs C Creed Humphrey got 2. Interesting that Marcus McNeil also was 4th in OROY voting as a rookie in 2006, with 6 votes. The last OL to receive OROY votes was Ravens C Tyler Linderbaum with 5 in 2022, 7th most (2022 was a weak year for offensive rookies). Browns' LT Joe Thomas finished 2nd in OROY voting in 2007 with 3.5 votes to Adrian Peterson's 46.5. I only looked at voting back to 2004, so I don't know if any other OL has ever finished 2nd in OROY voting.
With so many 1st round QBs in this draft, it seems the odds are high of one of them wins OROY this season. But wouldn't it be interesting if Joe Alt became the first OL to win OROY? I don't know if Ladd McConkey will have an opportunity to win OROY. Puka Nacua was 2nd in OROY voting last season. But the Rams rode him hard as a rookie, he had 160 targets, catching 105 of those for 1486 yds. Yet he only received 2 OROY votes to C.J. Stroud's 48. I don't envision young Ladd getting that much opportunity.
But...Jets' WR Garrett Wilson won OROY (barely) in 2022. Wilson is the WR I see McConkey most often compared to. Similar size, speed and skill set. Wilson had 95 receptions for 1042 yds and 3 TDs as a rookie, on a team with a very unstable QB situation. Wilson was drafted 10th overall in 2022, the 2nd WR off the board behind Drake London. I guess there is a chance for McConkey, to win OROY, if none of the rookie QBs stand out. He was the 9th WR drafted at #34.
My dark, dark horse candidate for a Charger OROY would be Brenden Rice. If he has a Puka Nucua caliber rookie year and none of the rookie QBs stand out. Like I said, a very dark horse candidate.
The Chargers' best and probably only DROY candidate is Junior Colson. Although he wasn't drafted until #69, he was only the 2nd LB off the board. The Packers took Edgerrin Copper at #45. Interestingly, Junior Seau was 3rd in DOROY voting in 1990, receiving only 1 vote.Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....
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Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post
You have to understand that there was a strong optimism a year ago about how Kellen Moore was going to change *everything* for the better: O-line blocking schemes, receivers' routes.. Yessir, it was certain to be a hit-the-ground-running success.
Then it didn't happen that way.
Normal people: Once burned? Twice shy.
Charger Fans: Repeatedly burned? Meh, you learn to believe what Harold Hill (The Music Man) and The Wizard (of Oz) are saying when it actually happens, and not before.
I'm not predicting doom and/or gloom. I'm just waiting to celebrate the victories until they actually, you know, HAPPEN!
“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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Originally posted by Velo View PostI wanted to do a post on the chances of a Chargers rookie winning OROY or DROY. I wanted to know if an OL has ever won OROY. The answer is "no." OROY was started in 1967. RB has dominated OROY throughout the history of the award, followed by WR. What's interesting is in 1970, the year of the merger, a QB won OROY for the first time. A QB did not win OROY again until Ben Roethlisberger in 2004. Since then QB has dominated OROY, winning half of the 20 awards through the 2023 season, when CJ Stroud was OROY.
OL have received OROY 1st place votes. Rashawn Slater was the last OT to get an OROY vote, he finished 4th in 2021 with 1 vote. Chiefs C Creed Humphrey got 2. Interesting that Marcus McNeil also was 4th in OROY voting as a rookie in 2006, with 6 votes. The last OL to receive OROY votes was Ravens C Tyler Linderbaum with 5 in 2022, 7th most (2022 was a weak year for offensive rookies). Browns' LT Joe Thomas finished 2nd in OROY voting in 2007 with 3.5 votes to Adrian Peterson's 46.5. I only looked at voting back to 2004, so I don't know if any other OL has ever finished 2nd in OROY voting.
With so many 1st round QBs in this draft, it seems the odds are high of one of them wins OROY this season. But wouldn't it be interesting if Joe Alt became the first OL to win OROY? I don't know if Ladd McConkey will have an opportunity to win OROY. Puka Nacua was 2nd in OROY voting last season. But the Rams rode him hard as a rookie, he had 160 targets, catching 105 of those for 1486 yds. Yet he only received 2 OROY votes to C.J. Stroud's 48. I don't envision young Ladd getting that much opportunity.
But...Jets' WR Garrett Wilson won OROY (barely) in 2022. Wilson is the WR I see McConkey most often compared to. Similar size, speed and skill set. Wilson had 95 receptions for 1042 yds and 3 TDs as a rookie, on a team with a very unstable QB situation. Wilson was drafted 10th overall in 2022, the 2nd WR off the board behind Drake London. I guess there is a chance for McConkey, to win OROY, if none of the rookie QBs stand out. He was the 9th WR drafted at #34.
My dark, dark horse candidate for a Charger OROY would be Brenden Rice. If he has a Puka Nucua caliber rookie year and none of the rookie QBs stand out. Like I said, a very dark horse candidate.
The Chargers' best and probably only DROY candidate is Junior Colson. Although he wasn't drafted until #69, he was only the 2nd LB off the board. The Packers took Edgerrin Copper at #45. Interestingly, Junior Seau was 3rd in DOROY voting in 1990, receiving only 1 vote.
Rice is not a serious pick - Ladd is the dark horse.“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View PostJust removing Staley as HC and defensive playcaller makes us better. Just rank the defense 15th and we win 3-4 games. Able to run the ball, 2 more games.
I think we sweep the Raiders, and Donkeys and we win 11-12 games.
I hope JH runs up the score in week 1 and gives a big Fuck You to Pierce who has said he wanted to score 70(though Jim wasn't here) and let him know he is the worst HC in the Div.
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Originally posted by Velo View PostI wanted to do a post on the chances of a Chargers rookie winning OROY or DROY. I wanted to know if an OL has ever won OROY. The answer is "no." OROY was started in 1967. RB has dominated OROY throughout the history of the award, followed by WR. What's interesting is in 1970, the year of the merger, a QB won OROY for the first time. A QB did not win OROY again until Ben Roethlisberger in 2004. Since then QB has dominated OROY, winning half of the 20 awards through the 2023 season, when CJ Stroud was OROY.
OL have received OROY 1st place votes. Rashawn Slater was the last OT to get an OROY vote, he finished 4th in 2021 with 1 vote. Chiefs C Creed Humphrey got 2. Interesting that Marcus McNeil also was 4th in OROY voting as a rookie in 2006, with 6 votes. The last OL to receive OROY votes was Ravens C Tyler Linderbaum with 5 in 2022, 7th most (2022 was a weak year for offensive rookies). Browns' LT Joe Thomas finished 2nd in OROY voting in 2007 with 3.5 votes to Adrian Peterson's 46.5. I only looked at voting back to 2004, so I don't know if any other OL has ever finished 2nd in OROY voting.
With so many 1st round QBs in this draft, it seems the odds are high of one of them wins OROY this season. But wouldn't it be interesting if Joe Alt became the first OL to win OROY? I don't know if Ladd McConkey will have an opportunity to win OROY. Puka Nacua was 2nd in OROY voting last season. But the Rams rode him hard as a rookie, he had 160 targets, catching 105 of those for 1486 yds. Yet he only received 2 OROY votes to C.J. Stroud's 48. I don't envision young Ladd getting that much opportunity.
But...Jets' WR Garrett Wilson won OROY (barely) in 2022. Wilson is the WR I see McConkey most often compared to. Similar size, speed and skill set. Wilson had 95 receptions for 1042 yds and 3 TDs as a rookie, on a team with a very unstable QB situation. Wilson was drafted 10th overall in 2022, the 2nd WR off the board behind Drake London. I guess there is a chance for McConkey, to win OROY, if none of the rookie QBs stand out. He was the 9th WR drafted at #34.
My dark, dark horse candidate for a Charger OROY would be Brenden Rice. If he has a Puka Nucua caliber rookie year and none of the rookie QBs stand out. Like I said, a very dark horse candidate.
The Chargers' best and probably only DROY candidate is Junior Colson. Although he wasn't drafted until #69, he was only the 2nd LB off the board. The Packers took Edgerrin Copper at #45. Interestingly, Junior Seau was 3rd in DOROY voting in 1990, receiving only 1 vote.Adopted Bolt: QJ
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My dark horse is Junior C aka THE Wolverine.
my favorite pick
Navarrow bowman's favorite pick
The league will take notice when he's ends the season as leader of a defense with veterans Derwin, Mack, Bosa.Nunc Coepi
2025 FA#1 Tyreek Hill
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