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[Boltnut]

In regards to the "Bosa to Harbaugh message" Sorry... not sorry...

Probably in reference to the 42-13 shellacking Bosa's Ohio State put on Harbaugh's Wolverines in 2015...

[dmac_bolt]

I'm going to say 4 years left... considering he still has one of the highest pressure rates in the NFL.
I don't think it's inevitable that he only plays 6-7 games next year. That sounds like hyperbole to me.
Bosa is 28. Mack is 32. Mack can save you $23m against the cap if cut/traded. Bosa only saves you $14.4m if cut/traded.

On top of all that... there is no way to restructure Mack... only extend (and pray like hell he takes a big pay cut).
With the 2 years left on Bosa's contract, it's a $7m savings to merely restructure... no extension required.
If you're not happy with his health/production... simply move on and collect your comp pick after 2025.

The Mack/Bosa decision will be one or the other. It's a money decision and a roster decision.
It makes no financial sense to keep both. And your roster is very thin @edge if you trade/cut both.

It makes no financial sense until Magic Ed makes sense of it. I’ll wait and see what they do

[dmac_bolt]

In regards to the "Bosa to Harbaugh message" Sorry... not sorry...

Probably in reference to the 42-13 shellacking Bosa's Ohio State put on Harbaugh's Wolverines in 2015...

Yeah, he was a college player or just left when he said it, obviously. Look at how young he is.

[Velo]

NaVorro Bowman is going to be LB coach? He was an All Pro LB for the 49ers during the Harbaugh glory years in SF.

[Bolt4Knob]

I'm going to say 4 years left... considering he still has one of the highest pressure rates in the NFL.
I don't think it's inevitable that he only plays 6-7 games next year. That sounds like hyperbole to me.
Bosa is 28. Mack is 32. Mack can save you $23m against the cap if cut/traded. Bosa only saves you $14.4m if cut/traded.

On top of all that... there is no way to restructure Mack... only extend (and pray like hell he takes a big pay cut).
With the 2 years left on Bosa's contract, it's a $7m savings to merely restructure... no extension required.
If you're not happy with his health/production... simply move on and collect your comp pick after 2025.

The Mack/Bosa decision will be one or the other. It's a money decision and a roster decision.
It makes no financial sense to keep both. And your roster is very thin @edge if you trade/cut both.

Its not savings - its just buying on credit - the bill will come due at some point. And basically will just increase his dead cap number. Which is already at $22m and yuo want to make $30m

As for the comp pick - that means paying Bosa $47m for two years - does that really make sense to possibly get a comp pick in the year 2026. It really doesn't.

Mack and Bosa are individual decisions. You don't keep one just because you get rid of the other

[wu-dai clan]

Two key factors here are Khalil's trade value and projecting Joey's response to the coaching of Harbaugh and staff.

I can picture Mack being amenable to going to the Rams with Giff Smith.
Joey might just revive his career.

Don't forget when calculating contract restructers that players and their agents will need to sign off.

[Go Chargers go]

I'm going to say 4 years left... considering he still has one of the highest pressure rates in the NFL.
I don't think it's inevitable that he only plays 6-7 games next year. That sounds like hyperbole to me.
Bosa is 28. Mack is 32. Mack can save you $23m against the cap if cut/traded. Bosa only saves you $14.4m if cut/traded.

On top of all that... there is no way to restructure Mack... only extend (and pray like hell he takes a big pay cut).
With the 2 years left on Bosa's contract, it's a $7m savings to merely restructure... no extension required.
If you're not happy with his health/production... simply move on and collect your comp pick after 2025.

The Mack/Bosa decision will be one or the other. It's a money decision and a roster decision.
It makes no financial sense to keep both. And your roster is very thin @edge if you trade/cut both.

First I would need a full evaluation on Bosa Foot/Leg injury before he is even in the discussion to keep, then to me it comes down to who’s position/stats are easier to replace.

Mack’s best year was last year with 17 sacks , of which 10 were with Bosa on the side line. 57 tackles 17 assist which in 17 games. He would also be ready to go if we were in the PO.
Bosa last full best year was in 2022 with 10.5 sack, he had 36 tackles 15 assists.

Mack was also better in playoff game against Jacksonville. Since Mack has come to the Chargers he seems to found his inner RAY LEWIS. IT COULD BE A HEALTHIER LIFESTYLE WITH BETTER OPTIONS FOR TRAINING.
‘MACK HAS FIGURED IT OUT….Bosa has not.

Mack could be a 1 or 2 year expensive but worth gap fill especially if we draft Bosa replacement in first rd.

[AK47]

NaVorro Bowman is going to be LB coach? He was an All Pro LB for the 49ers during the Harbaugh glory years in SF.

Part of that trend of modern 230lb LBs in the NFL during 2010's. Would've been 5 straight All-Pros if it wasn't for injury. DPOY too.

[Velo]

Part of that trend of modern 230lb LBs in the NFL during 2010's. Would've been 5 straight All-Pros if it wasn't for injury. DPOY too.

He should be good for our LBs, Henley especially. Same mold.

[Boltnut]

Its not savings - its just buying on credit - the bill will come due at some point. And basically will just increase his dead cap number. Which is already at $22m and yuo want to make $30m

As for the comp pick - that means paying Bosa $47m for two years - does that really make sense to possibly get a comp pick in the year 2026. It really doesn't.

Mack and Bosa are individual decisions. You don't keep one just because you get rid of the other

It is savings... on the 2024 cap. Which is, of course, the first order of business... get under the cap by March 13th.
It only increases the dead cap number... if you cut him. I get it... you decided to cut him a year ago... after he threw his helmet.
But Harbaugh has no memory of that... nor should he make decisions based on that. He'll look at Joey as a ballplayer... what can I do with this ballplayer. There is ZERO percent chance of predicting any football players future injury. It could be Joey... it could be Mack. Wasn't Mack coming off an injury when we signed him...? Harbaugh already mentioned Joey by name... Horitz already mentioned he likes comp picks. It makes way more sense to pay Bosa $47 million for two years... than scuttle everyone and hope you can uncover some secret gem in the 3rd round. By the looks of it, everyone wants offensive players rounds 1-5 anyways. At some point, someone will have to invest something in the defense if you want to climb out of the cellar. Luckily, Harbaugh and Horitz are those kind of guys. Strap in, boys... there are going to be some unpopular moves coming soon.

[Boltnut]

First I would need a full evaluation on Bosa Foot/Leg injury before he is even in the discussion to keep, then to me it comes down to who’s position/stats are easier to replace.

Mack’s best year was last year with 17 sacks , of which 10 were with Bosa on the side line. 57 tackles 17 assist which in 17 games. He would also be ready to go if we were in the PO.
Bosa last full best year was in 2022 with 10.5 sack, he had 36 tackles 15 assists.

Mack was also better in playoff game against Jacksonville. Since Mack has come to the Chargers he seems to found his inner RAY LEWIS. IT COULD BE A HEALTHIER LIFESTYLE WITH BETTER OPTIONS FOR TRAINING.
‘MACK HAS FIGURED IT OUT….Bosa has not.

Mack could be a 1 or 2 year expensive but worth gap fill especially if we draft Bosa replacement in first rd.

All of these things are statements about the past. If you want to cherry-pick past stats, Mack had only 8 sacks in 2022. In fact, from 2019-2022... that was his average. He had a great year in 2023. There is no guarantee that will ever happen again. He will be 33 when the season starts next year. His contract was an "All-In" contract... very inexpensive on the front end, very expensive on the back end. It was written as a 2-year deal. Accept that... look to 2024's cap... and get what you can for Mack via trade. The good news is... he had 17 sacks last year. Use that to your advantage. Don't wait until he's hurt, old, and un-tradable. It's his future worth you guys should be looking at.

[Boltnut]

Two key factors here are Khalil's trade value and projecting Joey's response to the coaching of Harbaugh and staff.

I can picture Mack being amenable to going to the Rams with Giff Smith.
Joey might just revive his career.

Don't forget when calculating contract restructers that players and their agents will need to sign off.

I'm talking about a simple restructure. You don't have to have the player's/agent's permission. It's nice to get it... but not necessary.

I thought when Harbaugh was hired, people would be excited to see what Bosa could do under Harbaugh.
I thought the 17 sacks for Khalil were good news for us... in that we could get more in trade.
I guess I was wrong....
I wonder if the Bears might want him back...?
New QB with the #1 and a toy (WR) for him to play with the #9 pick...? Bears need a pass rusher (potentially #9)... they have cap space now. Mack, on a 2-year deal, for a 3rd rounder...? Bears could use that stop-gap.