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  • dmac_bolt
    JH3 and Me
    • May 2019
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    Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

    I have a so so idea of what he'll do with the money, he's going to extend his guys first and then they'll see how much money they have left over to play with...

    Slater will get paid

    Mack will get extended on a mid tier short term deal

    Molden will get extended

    Fulton might get extended

    Dobbins will get extended

    Perryman might get extended

    Ford will get extended

    Tart will get extended

    Bosa might get restructured on manageable team friendly deal

    AND he's going to tender the restricted free agents, Smart, Sarrell, and Fisk

    it remains to be seen how much that'll cost so by the time free agency hits, the chargers might have a lot less left to spend than the 100mil numbers people keep throwing around...I'd say in the 40 to 50 mil range going into free agency knowing that about 22mil of that will be spoken for draft and in-season budget needs...so by the time all that gets factored in the Chargers will have enough to bring in one or two IOL and maybe another veteran TE...

    I know people want a lot of big flashy FA signings but that's not good long term when you have to let young talented guys walk because you spent your cap on high priced free agents, I'm still not happy that Nwosu and Henry are not still wearing the lightning bolts, both players have been misses and neither would've broken the bank but powers that be had spent money on guys like Bulaga, Joseph, and Harris...players that were basically overpaid at the tail end of their careers, it was idiotic and basically not planning for the future...
    you've got a guess. i'll give you that. I see one that is certain in your list = Slater. The rest, who knows. what do they think they should get vs what does he want to spend? who else wants to offer them money? What if Ford and Tart both think they are now worth $10M?

    Nwosu has 1 sack this year, he had 2 sacks last year. you'd want to cut him if he were here
    “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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    • jamrock
      lawyers, guns and money
      • Sep 2017
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      Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

      I have a so so idea of what he'll do with the money, he's going to extend his guys first and then they'll see how much money they have left over to play with...

      Slater will get paid

      Mack will get extended on a mid tier short term deal

      Molden will get extended

      Fulton might get extended

      Dobbins will get extended

      Perryman might get extended

      Ford will get extended

      Tart will get extended

      Bosa might get restructured on manageable team friendly deal

      AND he's going to tender the restricted free agents, Smart, Sarrell, and Fisk

      it remains to be seen how much that'll cost so by the time free agency hits, the chargers might have a lot less left to spend than the 100mil numbers people keep throwing around...I'd say in the 40 to 50 mil range going into free agency knowing that about 22mil of that will be spoken for draft and in-season budget needs...so by the time all that gets factored in the Chargers will have enough to bring in one or two IOL and maybe another veteran TE...

      I know people want a lot of big flashy FA signings but that's not good long term when you have to let young talented guys walk because you spent your cap on high priced free agents, I'm still not happy that Nwosu and Henry are not still wearing the lightning bolts, both players have been misses and neither would've broken the bank but powers that be had spent money on guys like Bulaga, Joseph, and Harris...players that were basically overpaid at the tail end of their careers, it was idiotic and basically not planning for the future...
      Losing Henry was definitely a blow. I also didn't like when they let Tranquil and Van Noy walk when they could have been had for little money. Hopefully, Hortiz doesn't make that mistake with guys like Ford and Tart who we are lucky to have

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      • Boltjolt
        Dont let the PBs fool ya
        • Jun 2013
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        Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post

        That's the way to go: target a few people over the years.

        KC targets Mitchell Schwartz / Joe Thuney / Honey bear / Justin Reid .... all these guys are 2nd contract guys who were top tier players (& still a bit undervalued).
        Other than the OTs they pick up through free agency, very patient disciplined approach.

        Compare that to Telesco: Okung, Pouncey, Linsley, .... 3rd contract guys on the downside who were formerly top tier (so a bargain to TT).
        (Linsley, and maybe even Okung, were still top tier - but old)

        Bargains: Chris Harris Jr., Brandon Flowers, Thomas Davis, .... on their last legs or flat out done.

        Even in TT's golden moment (Casey Hayward), Hayward was 27 years old when he first played for San Diego.
        Hayward was great with us and really about the only real solid FA he signed. Well Linslay was great but then the heart thing happened which we didn't see coming.

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        • Boltjolt
          Dont let the PBs fool ya
          • Jun 2013
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          Originally posted by Cdn Bolt View Post


          Boseman is on a 1 yr deal for ~ $1.5M so that tells you they don't view him as the long term answer at C. Maybe he resigns to be a backup.

          Pipkins is getting $9M which they surely know is ridiculous for his avg play at best. They see he frees up $6.7M in cap space for a much better replacement so a major restructure to be depth at best or could see him released outright- another TT bust reject pick.

          Zion Johnson will make $4.7M next year which they must also be cringing about so could see him getting the boot too as again there are much better players for that kind of $.

          They can't be happy w the results on the field either so could see 3 new starters next year and Johnson and Pipkins possible cuts or at best restructures.

          Ex In FA, RG Will Hernandez $4.5M replaces Pipkins ( $6.7M) and LG Dalton Risener $2.5M replaces Johnson ( $4.5M). Many good Cs for ~ $2-3M.

          At least 2 new FA IOL and then grab some BPA in the top or mid rounds and we will be in great shape.
          Risner hasnt been good. Denver let him walk and his run blocking is worse than Zion, Pipkins and Bozeman.
          His pass blocking is ok but we would just be sacrificing one for the other.

          Id pass on Risner

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          • Topcat
            AKA "Pollcat"
            • Jan 2019
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            Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

            its horrid. putrid. it stinks. its the single biggest inhibitor to championship ball on the entire team. some pundits don't even watch our games, and Jim is loyal with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind.

            Jim sees it. I know he does. He has what he has right now, he's not going to say anything differently.

            I do agree with what I think Wu may have been implying - they won't run out and buy the most expensive IOL players on the market - they will shop for lower price value pieces to build the overall team. Thats possible. I'm still for fuck it - lets blow this IOL problem to bits and see what a team with a complete elite OL from end to end can do. But i'm gonna watch and see and trust in their plan.
            Agree...first of all, need to keep Herbie healthy...aside from that, an elite O line will give Herbie a LOT more time for routes, especially long routes, to develop...AND improve our ground game...I would again say, sign a solid FA C and G, double dip for the same in the draft, draft a top shelf TE in round 1, get RB and WR in draft, and sign FA's also...but absolutely we need to shore up our O-line...with a solid O line, we can even get by with an average RB and WR, though I think we should be able to sign some decent talent there...

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            • Topcat
              AKA "Pollcat"
              • Jan 2019
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              Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post

              That's the way to go: target a few people over the years.

              KC targets Mitchell Schwartz / Joe Thuney / Honey bear / Justin Reid .... all these guys are 2nd contract guys who were top tier players (& still a bit undervalued).
              Other than the OTs they pick up through free agency, very patient disciplined approach.

              Compare that to Telesco: Okung, Pouncey, Linsley, .... 3rd contract guys on the downside who were formerly top tier (so a bargain to TT).
              (Linsley, and maybe even Okung, were still top tier - but old)

              Bargains: Chris Harris Jr., Brandon Flowers, Thomas Davis, .... on their last legs or flat out done.

              Even in TT's golden moment (Casey Hayward), Hayward was 27 years old when he first played for San Diego.
              "TT's Golden Moment"...is this possible?

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              • Fouts2herbert
                Charger Fan since 1978
                • Sep 2021
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                Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                Hayward was great with us and really about the only real solid FA he signed. Well Linslay was great but then the heart thing happened which we didn't see coming.
                outside of Linsley and Hayward, I don't recall any good FA signings, that center from Pittsburgh can remember his name he was okay but was also pretty much done, Linsley was fantastic while he lasted and the heart thing shouldn't take away from how good he was while he played for us...
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                • Fouts2herbert
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                  • Sep 2021
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                  Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                  "TT's Golden Moment"...is this possible?
                  the only golden moment I can attribute to TT is probably drafting Herbert...his best move ever as Charger GM...it might be the single biggest reason he got hired right away too...
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                  • Fouts2herbert
                    Charger Fan since 1978
                    • Sep 2021
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                    Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                    Losing Henry was definitely a blow. I also didn't like when they let Tranquil and Van Noy walk when they could have been had for little money. Hopefully, Hortiz doesn't make that mistake with guys like Ford and Tart who we are lucky to have
                    yes, but I think Van Noy was a culture thing in the locker room, I don't think he got along with some of the guys on the team, they used to call him "grumpy old man" he played defense for Staley so maybe he had cause to be a bit grumpy, LOL!
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                    • Boltjolt
                      Dont let the PBs fool ya
                      • Jun 2013
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                      Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

                      outside of Linsley and Hayward, I don't recall any good FA signings, that center from Pittsburgh can remember his name he was okay but was also pretty much done, Linsley was fantastic while he lasted and the heart thing shouldn't take away from how good he was while he played for us...
                      That was Mike Pouncey and we got the brother from Miami, not Pittsburgh ( Marquise). He was about done as he had degenerating hips to some degree.

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                      • Ghost of Quacksaw
                        Beef Before Gazelles
                        • May 2021
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                        The Pouncy brothers were teammates with Aaron Hernandez and Tim Tebow at Florida. Pretty sure their coach there was the now-disgraced Urban Meyer.

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                        • Fouts2herbert
                          Charger Fan since 1978
                          • Sep 2021
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                          Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                          That was Mike Pouncey and we got the brother from Miami, not Pittsburgh ( Marquise). He was about done as he had degenerating hips to some degree.
                          sorry, I got the two mixed up, they were identical if I remember correctly...
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