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Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
Long time Minnesota Viking play by play announcer Paul Allen says DEN is desperate to move up and get McCarthy.
They're so desperate out Denver way. I'm not kidding you man. I wouldn't be surprised if it was 'we want that 3 so badly we will give you [pick No.] 12, we will give you next year's 1st-rounder, and we will give you Patrick Surtain II'. I'm not kidding you. They are that desperate"
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Originally posted by Bolts4ever213 View PostWe all can see how weak the offensive line played last year. Funny how it started when we lost Corey. Yes, like most of you, I want a better right tackle. I also want a solid center. I want to see the guards be being and stronger, is McFadden going to get a shot to get a spot on this line? My dream is to get 11 and 27, draft a RT at 11 and a C at 23. If it all starts with the line, let’s go all in on giving us the dominating, nasty, beasts to do it.
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
Good points...dont agre with all but good points. Nutty does tend to strong arm his opinions and he may or may not be right. We all may or may not be right. There are people on Twitter saying if we dont pick a WR at 5 we are stupid, its a bad pick already, etc....imo those fans dont know our scheme and probably dont know history about our coaches.
However...first......the #5 pick contract will be 32.38 million, not 41. Ive posted the rookie slot pool a handful of times.
Next i do think you over think the draft slot money. Especially for QBs. The league dont really give a shit what it costs to get a QB and why they are over drafted EVERY year and why mediocre QBs like Murray got over fucking paid. Watson got a surely ridiculous contract and Russell Wilson got a ridiculous over paid contract. You think they care about drafting 5th or 10th for a player they love even if it isnt a QB? Sure they may try to trade down for a safety and OG but it doesnt always happen either.
Signing free agents is another thing altogether but in the draft if there is a player they love, i dont think they care if he is 5, 8 or 10 and take a chance on losing out,....they will draft them if thats who they love. They got the draft rookie pool in place for a reason so they cant complain about it....and i dont think they are. No other sport can a team just cut a guy and not have to pay them the duration of that contract.
Dont feel sorry for these billionaires. They can afford it. They ask the public to pay for half or more of their new stadiums then reward you with a $100 tab to park your car to go see them play. Charge you thousands to have a license for the right to get season tickets or seats or whatever its for.
And dont forget...we had 2 WRs making 20 mil...Jax just paid 30m mil per year to resign their edge rusher. They do it to themselves. And No, dont consider safety a premium position. A few have got paid but it isnt near league wide.
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
I wouldn't mind Surtain, but I wouldn't want to be shackled for 2 more years on the hook for $24 mil of his current deal, then years of his next monster contract...or to let him go and have to then replace him...and BTW, why should we help the Donks, anyways?
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I see DEN, DAL and MIN now in a bidding war with rookie players to get to that 4th QB.
DEN - Surtain
DAL- Parsons
MIN - Addison
There’s a QB tax but there’s also a divisional tax too..
So if DEN is stuck having to trade with the Chargers Hortiz is fleecing them.
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Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
Long time Minnesota Viking play by play announcer Paul Allen says DEN is desperate to move up and get McCarthy.
They're so desperate out Denver way. I'm not kidding you man. I wouldn't be surprised if it was 'we want that 3 so badly we will give you [pick No.] 12, we will give you next year's 1st-rounder, and we will give you Patrick Surtain II'. I'm not kidding you. They are that desperate"
For us in div it would have to be 12, 3rd, 4th, 2025 first and Surtain.
Every year when it gets close the rumors start flying so we'll see how things go.
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Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
Long time Minnesota Viking play by play announcer Paul Allen says DEN is desperate to move up and get McCarthy.
They're so desperate out Denver way. I'm not kidding you man. I wouldn't be surprised if it was 'we want that 3 so badly we will give you [pick No.] 12, we will give you next year's 1st-rounder, and we will give you Patrick Surtain II'. I'm not kidding you. They are that desperate"
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
I wouldn't mind Surtain, but I wouldn't want to be shackled for 2 more years on the hook for $24 mil of his current deal, then years of his next monster contract...or to let him go and have to then replace him...and BTW, why should we help the Donks, anyways?
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Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
I’m with you. I specifically said 2 weeks ago that this trade was going to be on the table including Surtain.
I see DEN, DAL and MIN now in a bidding war with rookie players to get to that 4th QB.
DEN - Surtain
DAL- Parsons
MIN - Addison
There’s a QB tax but there’s also a divisional tax too..
So if DEN is stuck having to trade with the Chargers Hortiz is fleecing them.
He could be afforded, our cap drops next year and in 2026. it would be a commitment to a top dollar CB they have to plan the rest of the roster around starting next year. And we had so much fun with our last high dollar FA CB … I’m unsure, it IS a position that warrants high investment for his caliber of excellence but it’s a big bite to chew. We all know he absolutely will be paid as a top tier CB by someone as soon as he’s allowed.
I don’t want to trade out of #5 with the plan he’s a 1 or 2 year rental though. If we took a deal including Surtain - the plan has to be he’s the DB anchor for the next 5 years.“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post
This year 2024 he only would cost us $3.5M as Denver already paid his signing bonus. Next year I think? he’s $19M if they exercise the 5th year option as a Rd1 pick, and in 2026 he’s a UFA unless they start tagging him (around $20M+) or negotiate a new contract - which my guess is going to be in the $25M APY range but they could get early year cap savings by the terms of a, say, 4 year deal
He could be afforded, our cap drops next year and in 2026. it would be a commitment to a top dollar CB they have to plan the rest of the roster around starting next year. And we had so much fun with our last high dollar FA CB … I’m unsure, it IS a position that warrants high investment for his caliber of excellence but it’s a big bite to chew. We all know he absolutely will be paid as a top tier CB by someone as soon as he’s allowed.
I don’t want to trade out of #5 with the plan he’s a 1 or 2 year rental though. If we took a deal including Surtain - the plan has to be he’s the DB anchor for the next 5 years.Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....
"Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh
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Jump on it.
sign him long term as soon as you can because the way the WR market is going, the CBs will follow.
Sauce Gardner getting his soon too.
PON..weakens a division rival in the window where we can win.
golden opportunity.
We would also know Denver's QB very well, including Minter knowing exactly how to game plan against him.Darius "4.36" Davis
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Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post
This year 2024 he only would cost us $3.5M as Denver already paid his signing bonus. Next year I think? he’s $19M if they exercise the 5th year option as a Rd1 pick, and in 2026 he’s a UFA unless they start tagging him (around $20M+) or negotiate a new contract - which my guess is going to be in the $25M APY range but they could get early year cap savings by the terms of a, say, 4 year deal
He could be afforded, our cap drops next year and in 2026. it would be a commitment to a top dollar CB they have to plan the rest of the roster around starting next year. And we had so much fun with our last high dollar FA CB … I’m unsure, it IS a position that warrants high investment for his caliber of excellence but it’s a big bite to chew. We all know he absolutely will be paid as a top tier CB by someone as soon as he’s allowed.
I don’t want to trade out of #5 with the plan he’s a 1 or 2 year rental though. If we took a deal including Surtain - the plan has to be he’s the DB anchor for the next 5 years.
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