2024 Chargers Roster Build Discussion - Transactions | News

[beachcomber]

QB Herbert, Joe Milton
RB Gus Edwards, Spiller, Dotson, Miyan Williams, Keilan Robinson, Daijun Edwards (Daijun Edwards 2020 Film - All Carries (youtube.com)
WR Keenan, Palmer, QJ, Derrius Davis, Luke McCaffrey
TE Everett, Vannett, Will Dissly, Parham, Ben Sinnott
OT Rashawn, Pips, Sarell, Tylan Grable
OG Zion, Jamaree, McFadden, Trente Jones
OC Connor Williams, Sedrick Van Pran Granger

NT Ogbonnia, Hinton, Jerrod Clark, T'Vondre Sweat
DT Matlock, Okoye, A'Shawn Robinson
DE Tuipulotu, Morgan Fox
ED Rumph
LB Niemann, Henley, Cedric Gray, Jordan Magee, Eric Gentry
SS Derwin, Alohi, Finley
FS JT Woods, Cole Bishop
CB Asante, Ja'Sir, Deane Leonard, Essang Bassey, Mike D.

PK Dicker
PT Scott
LS Harris

obviously not gonna pan out like the above, and just wanted to slap somethin' up there, as it feels good to have a power back and blocking TE on board, as well as having Alohi back in the mix

[Bolt4Knob]

There's a whole lotta Roquan Smith in Devin White.

Didn't have the best year in Tampa
Pretty solid his first four years in the league I believe
might be a good buy low type candidate - well one year deal
Probably would cost close to Murray

[Bolt4Knob]

With the three signings we are about $30M over the cap. Cutting Williams and redo of Allen will not cut it. Mack is gone. Can't trade him as teams know he's
being released. No choice there. Bosa is also likely gone, but not necessarily this week.

With Murray signing with the Titans we currently would get a 5th or 6th round comp pick. That still leaves Everett and host of backups. Davis the wild card.
But he played so bad, any team that needs a CB will wait until the draft and after May 1st.

Chargers have to move another $50m or closer more to start the year if you include paying draft picks, injury reserve and signing a couple more players like Center, Back Up QB, IDL or LB in free agency
Allen could be worth around $15m with an extension
Bosa would add $22m with a June 1 release
MW is $20m

So that is 57m right there and haven't touched Mack

[Jack Burton]

QB Herbert, Joe Milton
RB Gus Edwards, Spiller, Dotson, Miyan Williams, Keilan Robinson, Daijun Edwards (Daijun Edwards 2020 Film - All Carries (youtube.com)
WR Keenan, Palmer, QJ, Derrius Davis, Luke McCaffrey
TE Everett, Vannett, Will Dissly, Parham, Ben Sinnott
OT Rashawn, Pips, Sarell, Tylan Grable
OG Zion, Jamaree, McFadden, Trente Jones
OC Connor Williams, Sedrick Van Pran Granger

NT Ogbonnia, Hinton, Jerrod Clark, T'Vondre Sweat
DT Matlock, Okoye, A'Shawn Robinson
DE Tuipulotu, Morgan Fox
ED Rumph
LB Niemann, Henley, Cedric Gray, Jordan Magee, Eric Gentry
SS Derwin, Alohi, Finley
FS JT Woods, Cole Bishop
CB Asante, Ja'Sir, Deane Leonard, Essang Bassey, Mike D.

PK Dicker
PT Scott
LS Harris

obviously not gonna pan out like the above, and just wanted to slap somethin' up there, as it feels good to have a power back and blocking TE on board, as well as having Alohi back in the mix

Who’s your 1st round pick?!?? McCaffrey or Milton?

[Topcat]

Yes, the Staley d made him sick. Should be fine now

Staley was like cancer. He really did make good players play bad, due to his stubborn, ineffective schemes, and other reasons. And many of us went through the 5 stages of Staley Charger Cancer Grief:

1. Denial - "No, Staley is NOT the problem! It's the players!"
2. Anger - "Now, I am REALLY getting mad, because the problem MUST be the players, or poor drafting...but it just CAN'T be Staley's fault! He led the Number 1 defense with the Rams a few years ago! It just CAN'T be him!"
3. Bargaining - "If only we had better players, we would start winning. If only we have a better OC--that MUST be the problem! (Lombo fired, Moore comes in, problem remains)...
4. Depression - "Now I'm depressed, because Staley MIGHT be a small part of the problem. Maybe he's not as smart as I thought he was. But we keep losing...it MUST be either the players, drafting, assistant coaches, the GM, SOMETHING..."
5. Acceptance - "Okay, I now realize Staley is the main problem. FIRE HIM! And he can take TT with him!"

[Chargers8491]

I wouldnt sign Queen. Edggerin Cooper is a Queen comp in the draft but bigger potentual & much cheaper IMV. Hopefully if we get extra picks, maybe we can get both Cooper and Colson, but id be happy with just Colson.
Need something to happen with our big 4 today. I still expect Keenan to stay....so big three.

I agree with this and I always thought that Keenan should stay but who knows what they decide to do. As far as Queen goes Hortiz would know more about him and if they sign him or not I'm ok with. If they sign him, I still think Colson is still in their plans but again who knows.

[charger1_sj]

Chargers have to move another $50m or closer more to start the year if you include paying draft picks, injury reserve and signing a couple more players like Center, Back Up QB, IDL or LB in free agency
Allen could be worth around $15m with an extension
Bosa would add $22m with a June 1 release
MW is $20m

So that is 57m right there and haven't touched Mack

We have to be under the cap by Wednesday. We are currently about $30M over. There is no way to do that without releasing Mack.
June 1st release for Bosa is OK, but we won't get there unless Mack is released. Otherwise we have to find a lot of other players to
release such as Fox, etc. It's not happening.

[Bolt4Knob]

I agree with this and I always thought that Keenan should stay but who knows what they decide to do. As far as Queen goes Hortiz would know more about him and if they sign him or not I'm ok with. If they sign him, I still think Colson is still in their plans but again who knows.

Queen went to the Steelers - 3/41m

And we continue to wait....

[Bolt4Knob]

We have to be under the cap by Wednesday. We are currently about $30M over. There is no way to do that without releasing Mack.
June 1st release for Bosa is OK, but we won't get there unless Mack is released. Otherwise we have to find a lot of other players to
release such as Fox, etc. It's not happening.

Good point about Wednesday but they can extend Allen and release Mike Williams and that would clear the bar to be cap compliant and sign Gus, Dissly and Gilman

At that point, they can than announce Joey Bosa as a June 1 cut - immediately get 14.6 of cap space and on June 1, they would get more.

[charger1_sj]

Good point about Wednesday but they can extend Allen and release Mike Williams and that would clear the bar to be cap compliant and sign Gus, Dissly and Gilman

At that point, they can than announce Joey Bosa as a June 1 cut - immediately get 14.6 of cap space and on June 1, they would get more.

Williams would save $20M against the cap. Not clear on the next $10M or more that we would have clear just to be cap compliant by Wed.
That would represent a pretty hefty pay cut for Allen. Looks doubtful to me. But who knows our cap guy has been pretty good at managing these
things. There maybe other cuts just to get past Wednesday.

[Charge!]

I wouldnt sign Queen. Edggerin Cooper is a Queen comp in the draft but bigger potentual & much cheaper IMV. Hopefully if we get extra picks, maybe we can get both Cooper and Colson, but id be happy with just Colson.
Need something to happen with our big 4 today. I still expect Keenan to stay....so big three.

makes sense..... we need to get the trades done and KA extended....but maybe hang up is KA still wants huge money?

hopefully we have trade offers for the 3 others.....and we are just waiting to see if those can be improved?

[Bolt4Knob]

Williams would save $20M against the cap. Not clear on the next $10M or more that we would have clear just to be cap compliant by Wed.
That would represent a pretty hefty pay cut for Allen. Looks doubtful to me. But who knows our cap guy has been pretty good at managing these
things. There maybe other cuts just to get past Wednesday.

Allen is currently set to get a roster bonus of $5m and a yearly salary of $18.1. so $23.1 (but nothing guaranteed)

If Allen is extended - it would be something like this, $18-20m signing bonus - spread over three years - plus the minimum salary, saving about $15m on the cap
2024: cap hit of $7-8m saving $15m; If they spread the signing bonus over two years, would be cap savings of 12m
So between Williams and Allen, they would be cap compliant


Where it gets tricky is if they teams that want to trade for players --so than they might have to release a player, or extend two players to get cap compliant to trade a player or two