2024 Chargers Roster Build Discussion - Transactions | News
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I am good if Hortiz wants to move on to new players
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This is just old man yelling/staring at clouds. Since the pandi I've been losing interest in sports. Over saturation of broadcast-streaming. Still love my Chargers, Padres and Rockets. Just don't watch the games as intently.
Believe the roster needs a large overall. Especially the cap eaters. Don't think Mack brings back more than a 4th. So be it. Bosa, Williams, AND Allen can go. We have a new coach and GM, give them a season of grace and rebuild. Feel for Herbert. Not giving up on the season, just an infusion of the roster. Yes, easier said than done. That's their job.
Seems the board was positive on the cutting of Kendricks. Which leads me to my question. For 3 straight years we have cut our leading tackler, White, Tranquill and now Kendricks. Understand to a degree Kendricks, the dollar amount. Still his productivity was solid. White, who I loved and Tranquill was a solid team guy. Tranquill in particular signed for peanuts. What am I missing? Yes, coaching. Promoting Ansley was a joke. Guess Staley wanted to keep control and put a straw man in charge. For the most part football is not like BB where you have stat stuffers. Somebody has to make a tackle. Those three made more than their share. Remember the nay sayers. Kyzir , a college safety, too small to play LB. Tranquill, multiple knee injuries in college. Kendricks, lost a step or two. What's all that say about the other 10 starters, who relatively did not put up near the #s of those 3 guys.
Sorry for the oration. But to sum up, in with the new, out with the old. Not going full youth movement, need some vets to step up and FAs. And please dear God, trade down. I'll now go back to nap time.
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Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View PostGuys, I'm starting to think that we need to re-sign both Gilman and Everett, they are both decent players that don't miss a lot of time and fill holes for one more year to buy some time for Hortiz to rework this POS top heavy roster that has very little behind a small group of highly paid players...
I think both would like to come back on short term deals...
Everett made 8 mil last year, how much you willing to pay him? Id only offer half that, which im sure he would turn down...... but since i dont want him id offer a little more to the other two i mentioned.
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Originally posted by Lone Bolt View PostI know we released Kendricks, but still awful quiet in Chargerland, for all the work that needs done...
Hard to sell trades before FA, sadly...but maybe we get lucky. Otherwise, gotta think cut, or one hell of a restructure or extension for somebody, to get us safely into the new league year, and buy us more time to wheel and deal...
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
We dont need to release anyone til the 12th and and cant trade MW till the 13th and thats the only move we need to make right now is to be under the cap. So not sure what the plan is. If we have a team that is intersted in MW, maybe we pay whatever bonus he has coming to do that? IDK. But we still have 6 days?
But if there truly is a market for Mike Williams in a trade -- that just means they would have to take other avenues to create the $20m of cap space: 1) extend Allen can probably take his $23m down to like $6m and 2) releasing Fox would get you the $20m to be cap compliant
If there truly is a trade market for Williams --take what you can get
If not, easiest thing to do is release him and get cap compliant and than you can make other moves
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Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post
Bonus for MW is not due until after the league year opens - so thats fine
But if there truly is a market for Mike Williams in a trade -- that just means they would have to take other avenues to create the $20m of cap space: 1) extend Allen can probably take his $23m down to like $6m and 2) releasing Fox would get you the $20m to be cap compliant
If there truly is a trade market for Williams --take what you can get
If not, easiest thing to do is release him and get cap compliant and than you can make other moves
We know something with him will happen and thats the only move we will make til the 13th so some anting to hear something is really not going to be news lol. And i doubt we sign anyone soon in FA. We still have things to do before we sign anyone. Extentions or restructures.....Mack may get traded after the 13th and that is when we might sign someone.
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Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post
Realistically, the Chargers just need to release Williams before March 13 - if they do not sign anybody else, and they will be cap compliant.
With that, they can use the two day official period to talk to teams, agents - even though that probably really started last week in Indy - to assess trade offers for Bosa and Mack plus get the extension done with Allen. At that time, can truly assess next steps as will know where they are with the cap.
Granted, I too would like to see the news about Mike Williams and the Allen (probable) extension but really, only need to release MW by early next week"The author assumes no responsibility or liability for any errors or omissions in the content of this post. The information contained in this post is provided on an "as is" basis with no guarantees of completeness, accuracy, usefulness or timeliness..."
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
Doesnt mean we cant pay it 5 days early to make a trade happen. Just saying there may be some interest and why they havent released him yet as we dont need to release him now. They can announce a trade before the 13th as the Bills did.
We know something with him will happen and thats the only move we will make til the 13th so some anting to hear something is really not going to be news lol. And i doubt we sign anyone soon in FA. We still have things to do before we sign anyone. Extentions or restructures.....Mack may get traded after the 13th and that is when we might sign someone.
And yes, if on March 13 when the league year opens that MW is still on the roster but Allen has been extended and Fox released (or another move to create a bit of cap space) - could mean MW is being traded
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Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post
Evans only gets the $26 per year if the Bucs win two Super Bowls in a row - other wise its closer to mid 40's for 2 years
I have always thought Allen would get in the 18ish range - maybe that goes up to an AAV of $20
I think Allen will sign something you suggest - gets paid this year and 2025 with 2026 tbd - might have some dead cap in 2026"The author assumes no responsibility or liability for any errors or omissions in the content of this post. The information contained in this post is provided on an "as is" basis with no guarantees of completeness, accuracy, usefulness or timeliness..."
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
Doesnt mean we cant pay it 5 days early to make a trade happen. Just saying there may be some interest and why they havent released him yet as we dont need to release him now. They can announce a trade before the 13th as the Bills did.
We know something with him will happen and thats the only move we will make til the 13th so some anting to hear something is really not going to be news lol. And i doubt we sign anyone soon in FA. We still have things to do before we sign anyone. Extentions or restructures.....Mack may get traded after the 13th and that is when we might sign someone.
if you're the chargers, how do you not make a run at Christian Wilkins?"The author assumes no responsibility or liability for any errors or omissions in the content of this post. The information contained in this post is provided on an "as is" basis with no guarantees of completeness, accuracy, usefulness or timeliness..."
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