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[ChargingBolts]

I just hope Hebert stays healthy because otherwise we're the 2023 Steelers 9-8 one and done with no QB. I swear to God if so get Rivers back. 2024 Rivers > 2024 Stick

[Bolt4Knob]

They are not worth their current cap hit. They never were, which is why their contracts are structured the way they were. Everyone on the team and the players knew this day was coming. All 4 players have big roster bonuses due in the 1st couple of days in the new year. That forces everyone to do something and do it before they get to deep in FA. That is the whole point of roster bonuses.

There are too many scenarios to play out, but you can do it yourself with this (https://overthecap.com/calculator/los-angeles-chargers). But if you are trying to maximize the space, remember that post june 1st cuts don't free up space until after June 1st, even though the player is free to go looking for another team.

We can bring our big 4 back, although the players are going to have to be flexible. Mack kinda said he wanted to come back (he said he wanted to play for Giff) and Williams and Allen both said they wanted to come back. They know the deal, they know they have to take a pay cut, and they were letting the team know.

They are all taking pay cuts, that is a given. That was going to have to happen a couple of years ago when those deals were signed.

If they don't take the hit, there is no way we can get under the cap. We don't have enough other high paid players, and some of them (like Herbert) just signed their deals, so would COST money to release.

If we can get them to extend their contracts a year or more without giving any new signing bonus, say by using a guaranteed salary, then we can drop it a lot. But the players will have to agree, and in the case of Williams, they may not want him back. Same might be true of Bosa. But I can see roles for these players, if they are willing to take a big enough cut.

The problem we face is a lot of holes.

I count 6 starters we need next season via FA and the draft. S (Alohi is a FA), CB (Davis is a FA), 2 ILB (assuming Kendricks is cut), 2 DT, C, TE, RB -is the bare minimum. If we cut Allen, Williams, Bosa and Mack, the number moves up to 9 (I count Tuli as a starter). And some positions like CB and OLB cost in the neighborhood shy of $20 million per year to sign as FA. Same with WR.

I think a great many people are underestimating how hard it is to build a roster.

Thats why I think this is a two draft process. Too many holes to fill
The team will be better with Harbaugh and the new coaching staff
But there is a lot of work to be done

Years and years of poor drafts have put the team in this position.

One note yuo make about Bosa and Williams: the injury concerns are relevant that even if they take pay cuts, not restructures, cuts - -the availability of both need to be reviewed. They might be making 5m but if they miss 75% of the team season, that still doesn't help you win games.

[Boltnut]

why the hell would you restructure bosa to trade him ?

that means the chargers are taking on MORE dead cap space for a guy that has limited trade value. unless you are thinking the chargers would be buying a draft pick

again, just release williams, kendricks, linsley retires, re-do allen - under the cap

The point is to get under the cap by 3/13.
If you extend Keenan... that is fine with me. I'd do it eventually anyways. I love Keenan.
But, you can also get there by restructuring Bosa and Derwin.
Restructuring Bosa, then trading him, costs no more than cutting him... if I understand the rules correctly.

I guess the restructure just gives the team more time (negotiation wiggle room) to decide on trades, extensions... or whatever.
In essence, we agree on cuts and extensions... I'm not sure why you're nit-picking this one item.

Personally, I'd take a draft pick trade for either Bosa or Mack... whichever brings more in trade.
I wouldn't trade both... just too risky to expect a college player to match either Bosa's or Mack's production.
Unlike most people here, I don't hate Bosa... I don't go to great lengths to discredit what he has done.
I understand the disappointment in his recent injury history. But I don't see any of those as career ending. Jim seems to like him.

[SAY OW 55]

I don't remember Jim saying that getting Justin help was connected to drafting Bowers (or any particular TE).
I'm pretty sure he said running the ball better would help him... "Not making him put the whole thing on his shoulders" I think were his exact words. This is the exact thing I've been saying for a while now. I've mentioned this numerous times now... Herbert's best year (2021) was also the same year we ran for 4.3 ypc.

So then you’re drafting a running back in the 1st round? You can get any other running back in later rounds to help him out. Dillon Johnson Blake Coryon.

So drafting Brock Bowers would help. I did mention other receivers and players just which one would help the most.

[northerner]

Personally, I'd take a draft pick trade for either Bosa or Mack... whichever brings more in trade.
I wouldn't trade both... just too risky to expect a college player to match either Bosa's or Mack's production.
Unlike most people here, I don't hate Bosa... I don't go to great lengths to discredit what he has done.
I understand the disappointment in his recent injury history. But I don't see any of those as career ending. Jim seems to like him.

I like Bosa, helmet throw and all, but he can't stay healthy. also, if he is always playing hurt when he IS on the field, then that is just a waste too.

we would save a lot more by trading/cutting Mack instead of Bosa ($23M vs $14M for Bosa), but there is a huge injury risk with Bosa.

[northerner]

We can bring our big 4 back, although the players are going to have to be flexible. Mack kinda said he wanted to come back (he said he wanted to play for Giff) and Williams and Allen both said they wanted to come back. They know the deal, they know they have to take a pay cut, and they were letting the team know.

They are all taking pay cuts, that is a given. That was going to have to happen a couple of years ago when those deals were signed.

If they don't take the hit, there is no way we can get under the cap. We don't have enough other high paid players, and some of them (like Herbert) just signed their deals, so would COST money to release.

If we can get them to extend their contracts a year or more without giving any new signing bonus, say by using a guaranteed salary, then we can drop it a lot. But the players will have to agree, and in the case of Williams, they may not want him back. Same might be true of Bosa. But I can see roles for these players, if they are willing to take a big enough cut.

Very good points.

Assuming that Keenan and Mack are the priorities, if we found a way to keep Bosa or Williams (I doubt both, but we'll see), it would keep the roster full at either EDGE or WR. it also depends on trade value. if there is more trade value for one of them, they might be the odd man out. Bosa has 2 years left on his deal but is an injury risk, but who knows.

They key is for them to play ball on the pay cut (if all 4 take a pay cut, that would start to add up and mean that each cut could be lighter).

[Boltnut]

So then you’re drafting a running back in the 1st round? You can get any other running back in later rounds to help him out. Dillon Johnson Blake Coryon.

So drafting Brock Bowers would help. I did mention other receivers and players just which one would help the most.

No, not a RB. Like you said, RB's can be had in the mid-rounds.
And probably not a WR. Harbaugh said he thinks what we have now is a very good group.
But OT @#5 is very enticing. 3 QB's and MHJ off the board by #5... and Joe Alt has to be a possibility.
When Harbaugh said he wanted to be tough and physical... when he said Herbert has to be protected... we know he wasn't talking about Pipkins.

My preference would be to trade back and get extra picks. There are a lot of needs on this team. Trading back is not the disaster some are portraying it to be. There are so many good players in the Top-15. CB's, DE's, OT's. We need them all! An extra 3rd and an extra 4th might just get you that RB... or TE... or DL... or LB that Jim wants/needs.

[Topcat]

I'd rather roll with Spiller then spend money on Barkley, give Mack that money instead.

Spiller hasn't shown a whole lot...upgrades, people, upgrades!

[Steve]

Spiller hasn't shown a whole lot...upgrades, people, upgrades!

Time will tell on whether Spiller can be an upgrade or not. Harbaugh is a really good coach in that guys like Spiller are going to be pushed to the limit. Guys will either be forced to step up their game or not. Only time will tell.

[wu-dai clan]

The Chargers could waive these guys and resign them later.
If they want to chase a ring with JimH, that might happen.

eg Fletcher Cox in Philadelphia last year.

[Maniaque 6]

With an ordinary OL, Spiller will be just another S. Michel.

[Chargers8491]

No, not a RB. Like you said, RB's can be had in the mid-rounds.
And probably not a WR. Harbaugh said he thinks what we have now is a very good group.
But OT @#5 is very enticing. 3 QB's and MHJ off the board by #5... and Joe Alt has to be a possibility.
When Harbaugh said he wanted to be tough and physical... when he said Herbert has to be protected... we know he wasn't talking about Pipkins.

My preference would be to trade back and get extra picks. There are a lot of needs on this team. Trading back is not the disaster some are portraying it to be. There are so many good players in the Top-15. CB's, DE's, OT's. We need them all! An extra 3rd and an extra 4th might just get you that RB... or TE... or DL... or LB that Jim wants/needs.

I doubt very seriously they are going to take a RT @ 5.