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  • Formula 21
    The Future is Now
    • Jun 2013
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    Originally posted by Boltgang74 View Post
    Man if Harb can get Murray straightened out what a weapon he could be with his physicality.Fingers crossed.If not then See Ya!
    As a former 1st rounder, I expect Murray to get paid this year. So I believe we can get more production for less cost in FA. Really, that should be Hortiz’s motto in building the squad this year, more production, less cost.
    Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
    The Wasted Decade is done.
    Build Back Better.

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    • FoutsFan
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      • Feb 2019
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      Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

      Who is throwing away the year

      I am not sure bringing back a bunch of players from a 5-12 team is a bad thing

      As for other players like Mack, Bosa and Williams - those are cap decisions that teams go through. Its the reality. And really, how much is the team really losing by moving away from Joey Big Bear Bosa. Oh yeah, 14 games out of 34 in total about to be paid 22m

      Harbaugh took this job to win a Super Bowl - he is going to build it to be like the Chiefs - not a one year wonder.

      You can keep Bosa and Williams if you want too - but unless they take a pay cut - looking at pushing $30m of cap; and if you want to keep Mack and Allen, unless they take a pay cut, pushing 30m of cap. That will go towards the future -- and the Chargers will have less money to spend when they might be in a better position to win and if you keep all these players, you just get on this cycle like the Saints,.
      You are one of the main cheerleaders for dumping the next year. You want to burn it all down, almost as if you are pissed Harbaugh was hired and want to make him coach with one arm tied behind his back.

      I have always said let him and his team make the decisions in a logical way that helps the team the most but you have your opinions that are personal to you for some reason and in your mind that trumps all logic or will to win. It you are entitled to your opinion, just own up to it and don’t run away from it when it’s called out.

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      • Lefty2SLO
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        • May 2022
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        Originally posted by FoutsFan View Post

        I am not ready to throw away next year, there are many posters here who have thrown away next year and the year after just on an emotional tantrum. I am also sure Harbaugh did not take this job thinking the next year or two will be throw aways, no matter how much people want it.

        ill wait for Harbaugh and team to evaluate everything with a clear non emotionally damaged opinion and make the right decision. Then work his ass off to produce a winner.

        Not a tantrum (at least in my case), I just don't see how it can all get fixed in one year. We need to temper our expectations with some reality. I EXPECT Harbaugh to make us (immediately) better, but I'm not expecting a deep playoff run (he's not God). Next year's ceiling is a WC berth . . . . . . . . . .at best (IMO), and I'm OK with that . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2025 however - that's where my expectations will really kick into gear. I expect us to challenge for a SB in 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, . . . . . . . . . . .

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        • Boltjolt
          Dont let the PBs fool ya
          • Jun 2013
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          Got to beat the Chiefs....and the refs in the playoffs

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          • Boltgang74
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            Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
            Got to beat the Chiefs....and the refs in the playoffs

            FIXED.

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            • northerner
              Charger fan since '79
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              Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
              Got to beat the Chiefs....and the refs in the playoffs
              It might be that the chiefs are benefactors of the refs trying not to become the highlight of the game in the playoffs (the old "let'em play" approach). it could also be combined with coaching, telling them to clean it up just a bit in the playoffs. the penalty situation is always tough to nail down.

              this reminds me of when the Pats DB's were accused of constantly rough up the colts' receivers for Manning, figuring that they would not call a penalty on every play.

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              • powderblueboy
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                • Jul 2017
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                Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                Murray will get more than $1.5M imo, for sure. Drue got $4M? His physical gifts + Staley's overall clusterfxx will entice someone to take a flier if the Chargers don't.

                I'd like to see him after Minter and Harbo get him coached up and run a professional defense but I don't know they'll prioritize him. He's not on my top Action List right now, they could get a different LB.
                Bradley is with Indy .... they'll probably grab Murray.

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                • powderblueboy
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                  Its not like San Francisco or Philly have any good pass rushers.

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                  • Lefty2SLO
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                    Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post
                    Its not like San Francisco or Philly have any good pass rushers.
                    How many of them had an on the field meltdown and significantly damaged their team's chances to win? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I'll wait

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                    • FoutsFan
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                      • Feb 2019
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                      Originally posted by Lefty2SLO View Post


                      Not a tantrum (at least in my case), I just don't see how it can all get fixed in one year. We need to temper our expectations with some reality. I EXPECT Harbaugh to make us (immediately) better, but I'm not expecting a deep playoff run (he's not God). Next year's ceiling is a WC berth . . . . . . . . . .at best (IMO), and I'm OK with that . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2025 however - that's where my expectations will really kick into gear. I expect us to challenge for a SB in 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, . . . . . . . . . . .
                      Agree, I am just doing 2 things, not throwing in the towel for 2024 and expecting big changes for the better. Where ever that leads us is what it is, but not giving up.

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                      • FoutsFan
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                        • Feb 2019
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                        Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
                        Got to beat the Chiefs....and the refs in the playoffs

                        That is exactly my point in the Myhommy thread. Chefs get every call and non call. Chefs fans are really pathetic too, in a given game there will be lets say 10 controversial calls or non calls and the Chefs will get 9/10 and their fans will bitch and cry over the 1 that did not go their way.

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                        • FoutsFan
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                          • Feb 2019
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                          Originally posted by northerner View Post

                          It might be that the chiefs are benefactors of the refs trying not to become the highlight of the game in the playoffs (the old "let'em play" approach). it could also be combined with coaching, telling them to clean it up just a bit in the playoffs. the penalty situation is always tough to nail down.

                          this reminds me of when the Pats DB's were accused of constantly rough up the colts' receivers for Manning, figuring that they would not call a penalty on every play.
                          It might be? That's like saying Joe Montana might be a pretty good QB in the SB.

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