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Originally posted by 21&500 View PostVery apparent to me that KA is not the victim in this to say the least.
I'll ALWAYS have love for KA and I say this with love but he's always been a brat,.I don't think he'd argue that.
he loves his money, so does his professional stylist wife, more power to them and theirs, but if you had a conversation with Jim and that DIDNT inspire you to want to stay and be a Chargers LEGEND, then I can confidently say we're better off long term.
Everybody knew the Chargers had to do something with ALL 4 players, and there is no way Keenan was caught off guard. He did refuse to take a pay cut, which is his absolute right. But, that is precisely why he was traded. The Chargers HAD to save some money.
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Originally posted by LarryAW View Post
Nobody is a victim in any of this. Telesco's moves put the Chargers into Cap Hell, and Hortiz fixed the problem.
Everybody knew the Chargers had to do something with ALL 4 players, and there is no way Keenan was caught off guard. He did refuse to take a pay cut, which is his absolute right. But, that is precisely why he was traded. The Chargers HAD to save some money.
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Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post
I got no issue with Keenan looking out for #1, none, but I do have an issue with all the cry babies making it seem like the Chargers did him wrong, that really pisses me off! The minute that the Chargers signed Harbaugh Keenan and Mike knew that they wanted to go elsewhere...let's just be honest about that shit...
I'm going with "better too soon than too late" GM move and dropping it.
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Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post
I got no issue with Keenan looking out for #1, none, but I do have an issue with all the cry babies making it seem like the Chargers did him wrong, that really pisses me off! The minute that the Chargers signed Harbaugh Keenan and Mike knew that they wanted to go elsewhere...let's just be honest about that shit...
Age, injury, missing game history and who understood these factors in taking a pay cut to a new regime played the role in who stayed. I expected Bosa to be the one doing what Keenan did and Keenan doing what Bosa did.
Instead they were the opposite. What a surprise.
Im also glad they didn’t trade Keenan to HOU like he wanted. The Jets would have been a good fit too…
No AFC team was the right thing to do although he demanded it.
Keenan got exactly what he deserved. Sucks, but I like you, don’t think Keenan read the room correctly on this…
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I understand Allen was a fan favorite... but the fan boy reactions are over the top right now. No career lasts forever. Bolts made the right move. We don't have a TE. We don't have any WRs. We don't have RBs. We don't have a Center. And I'm talking high value, above average production that is needed to win consistently. This is a 5-win team. Sure, injuries are a factor, but injuries also expose depth or lack of it. If the argument is about timing or waiting a year to let him walk, well, the cap space is still needed now. Personally, he wasn't a game changer. Teams contained him all day and Allen's own injuries didn't help.
The past five seasons: 5, 10, 9, 7, 5 win totals. This has never been a deep team under TT. Even after trading Allen, there's still not a lot of room left to keep covering all these holes. It's not just a matter of one for one replacements. "We need a WR now!" Well, we still need about 12 other guys as well. Hortiz comes from the school of BPA, not just filling perceived holes.
Four of the top 12 cap hits IN THE LEAGUE were our four guys. Can't forget Herbert is about to chew up a large portion of the cap going forward and even then, he'll probably be asked to restructure a few times.
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Originally posted by Grim Bolt View PostI understand Allen was a fan favorite... but the fan boy reactions are over the top right now. No career lasts forever. Bolts made the right move. We don't have a TE. We don't have any WRs. We don't have RBs. We don't have a Center. And I'm talking high value, above average production that is needed to win consistently. This is a 5-win team. Sure, injuries are a factor, but injuries also expose depth or lack of it. If the argument is about timing or waiting a year to let him walk, well, the cap space is still needed now. Personally, he wasn't a game changer. Teams contained him all day and Allen's own injuries didn't help.
The past five seasons: 5, 10, 9, 7, 5 win totals. This has never been a deep team under TT. Even after trading Allen, there's still not a lot of room left to keep covering all these holes. It's not just a matter of one for one replacements. "We need a WR now!" Well, we still need about 12 other guys as well. Hortiz comes from the school of BPA, not just filling perceived holes.
Four of the top 12 cap hits IN THE LEAGUE were our four guys. Can't forget Herbert is about to chew up a large portion of the cap going forward and even then, he'll probably be asked to restructure a few times.
Chargers got a 4th in a season where they desperately need draft picks.
He clearly didn’t want to play for the new regime.
It is what it is. I’m good with it.
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
Well, i dont know what his score was but im not a RAS score guy anyways. Dont matter to me if its 10 or 5....i see tape.
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Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post
we saved about 22mil with the Keenan trade and our cap is sitting at 28 mil, so something is wrong with your math, pre KA trade we were at about 6mil in spendable money, WTF are they supposed to do with 6mil? the team still has a shit load of holes to fill, again, if folks want to be mad, be fucking mad at TT, 30mil plus in dead cap and 4 of the biggest cap hits in the NFL this offseason, again, WTF were Hortiz and Harbaugh supposed to do, pull cap money out of their bungholes?!
all the moves we are making. But we had way more than $6M at the time Allen was traded.
I am not mad. I am disappointed that we only got a 4th rounder for Allen, and we left a big hole at WR. We traded Allen for cap space. Now
we have to see how that plays out. We should now bring in a vet center, and maybe a LB. There are also several good but older OTs left in
FA. We would do well to get one on a cheap deal for insurance purposes.
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Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post
All depnds on the pick swap of course but end of the day, two picks at top of 4th round is pretty similar to a late 3rd and a late 4th - plus he goes to the NFC which is a bonus.
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