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  • sonorajim
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    Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

    Harbaugh can still make suggestions to the coaching staff - on both offense and defense - if herberts skill sets are not being maximized

    But yes, having a strong running game would be nice

    Sounds like he won't be the OC - just have to see who Jimbo is targeting
    Suggestions hell, he can give orders.
    I have no doubt that Jim is sincere regards run / pass balance. Each improves the other.
    Jim will get his staff together in the near future.
    Reviewing our personnel is the next job and he needs them involved.

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    • Eurobolt
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      Originally posted by Xenos View Post

      Passing concepts and schemes are archaic to put it nicely. I still prefer him over Kliff Kingsbury or Bienemy because his running schemes are still very good.
      He worked with Alex Smith (great season), CK, Lamar.

      None of this player is even close to arm talent Herbert has.

      Build strong Line, establish run, built dominant TE (Gronk, Kielce) and let Herbert cook.

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      • Boltx
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        Give it a chance.

        Roman could have been humbled by his Ravens experience and may have evolved from it.

        Do we think Harbaugh sat out from the NFL all these years just to return and ruin his last (?) run at a SB because of a subpar staff? Jim has been planning every move for years. I'm sure a discussion was had with Roman about what they can BOTH do better this second go around...
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        • 21&500
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          This is an article about Jim leading up to the "Harbowl"
          Hortiz mentioned meeting Jim as a Ravens QB in 98 and I had to look it up because I didn't recall him ever playing there.
          Apparently he did.
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          T The owner Art Modell promised that Baltimore would have an elite team in 1998, but Jim Harbaugh and the Ravens struggled.Credit...Wade Payne/Associated Press

          Until Joe Flacco came along in 2008, being the starting quarterback of the Baltimore Ravens featured all the job security of a department store Santa. Preceding him were the likes of Scott Mitchell, Jeff Blake and Steve McNair. And Elvis Grbac, Anthony Wright and Stoney Case.

          There also was, for one season, a 34-year-old with an average arm and ferocious intensity whose mission on Sunday in New Orleans will be to stop his former team from winning Super Bowl XLVII. His name is Jim Harbaugh, and he coaches the San Francisco 49ers.

          Harbaugh fashioned a solid career in 14 N.F.L. seasons, completing the second-most passes in Chicago Bears history before heading to Indianapolis, where the man known as Captain Comeback led the upstart Colts to within one play of the Super Bowl and was later chosen for the team’s Ring of Honor.

          His next stop, in 1998, was Baltimore. He played 14 games. He lasted 13 months. He threw 12 touchdown passes and 11 interceptions. The Ravens lost 10 times. Harbaugh’s tenure in purple and black, brief and unproductive, was the opposite of his older brother John’s experience while steering the Ravens to three A.F.C. title games in five years.

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          “It was one of those years that you wish you could forget,” said Peter Boulware, a second-year linebacker on that 1998 team. “We did the best we could do, but it just wasn’t a fun season.”

          The season was supposed to be more than just fun. The Ravens, despite finishing 6-9-1 in 1997, began the year freighted with expectations. Their owner, Art Modell, promised an “elite” team for the franchise’s first year at what is now M&T Bank Stadium.

          At quarterback, the Ravens were interested in upgrading from Vinny Testaverde, so they pursued the former Buffalo star Jim Kelly, who was considering a return to the N.F.L., and Harbaugh. Deeming Kelly’s contract demands too high, Baltimore traded two draft picks for Harbaugh, who, as it happens, punched Kelly a year earlier in response to accusations that he exaggerated his injuries.

          The trade reunited Harbaugh with his coach for two seasons in Indianapolis, Ted Marchibroda, who was entering the final year of his contract with Baltimore. Marchibroda admired him so much that, after Harbaugh was drilled out of bounds during the Ravens-Colts game in Indianapolis in 1996, the coach said he was more concerned about Harbaugh’s well-being than about getting the 15-yard penalty.

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          “That’s the only time I ever got into a situation like that,” Marchibroda said from his home in Virginia. “But Jim was a special guy.”

          Harbaugh seemed a natural fit for Marchibroda’s offense, which he knew well. The hope was that a revamped running game, buoyed by Errict Rhett, fullback Roosevelt Potts and a strong offensive line, would create opportunities for Harbaugh, who liked to improvise and throw on the run. ImageScrambling to recover a fumble in 1998, Jim Harbaugh spent one season as a quarterback for the Ravens, going 5-7 as the starter.Credit...Michael S. Green/Associated Press
          "We all respected what Jim had done in the league,” said kicker Matt Stover, who became a co-founder of the Players’ Philanthropy Fund, which streamlines the charitable donation process for athletes. “We knew there was a marriage there, a good relationship with Ted and Jim, and we thought we’d have a really good offense.”

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          Instead, the Ravens’ first game, a 20-13 loss to Pittsburgh, served as a microcosm of their season. Harbaugh was pummeled by the blitzing Carnell Lake in the second quarter, hyperextended a finger on his right hand, and did not return. He started the next two games but failed to make it to halftime in either, yanked because of injury or ineffectiveness.

          Marchibroda replaced him with Eric Zeier, whose strong arm was capable of stretching defenses. Zeier’s spell as the starter lasted a month. He struggled to cope with blitzes. A thumb injury knocked him out in Green Bay. In five of their first seven games, he and Harbaugh shared time. The Ravens were 2-5.

          “It probably wasn’t the ideal situation for either one of us, but the way we handled it together was,” Zeier said. “Never was there animosity. It was always supporting who was on the field and competing to see who could win the job outright.”

          Harbaugh eventually did, his best game — 27 for 34 with three touchdowns — coming in a 26-point defeat at Jacksonville that prompted Modell to tell The Baltimore Sun that he had “never been as embarrassed or as disgraced as I was last night.”

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          Boulware and Zeier remember Harbaugh as a tireless worker with a fiery temperament who did not take losing well. Stover praised his acumen and his passion, saying that Harbaugh fit in well with his new teammates, but added that “not everybody bought in” and that “he wasn’t like the full-fledged leader.”

          “He related well to everybody, encouraged everyone in practice and was a good teammate to have,” Boulware said. “The tough thing was just that — it’s one thing to have a Peyton Manning in your locker room, pumping everybody up, and you know he’s going to go out onto the field and be an all-star. With Jim, it wasn’t like he was going on the field and saying, ‘Follow me and play as good as I’m playing.’ ”

          Even with Baltimore at 2-6, a sliver of optimism existed: Harbaugh, his elbow and finger injuries healed, felt healthy again. A 14-13 loss at San Diego, in which Harbaugh was sacked six times, preceded a two-game winning streak capped by a victory against the Colts in their first visit to Baltimore since relocating 14 years earlier. Afterward, Harbaugh presented the game ball to Johnny Unitas. It was the Ravens’ final highlight. They went on to lose three straight, sealing Marchibroda’s dismissal. Their power running game never materialized. They finished the season with 269 points, the fifth fewest in the league, and ranked last in first downs.

          “There is something missing here,” Harbaugh told The Sun after the third straight loss, at Chicago. “Something is not right. Something is very wrong. I can’t exactly put my finger on it.”

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          Harbaugh did not know it then, but the Ravens already had the defensive foundation for their 2000 championship team: Ray Lewis, Rod Woodson and Tony Siragusa, among others. But Harbaugh was not around to enjoy it; two months after the 1998 season, he was traded to San Diego.

          Because Testaverde played for the franchise when it was based in Cleveland, it was Harbaugh, in a sense, who started the pattern of rotating quarterbacks. Mitchell, Blake and McNair. Grbac, Wright and Case. All came after him, but none exacted revenge. After all these years, Harbaugh can. By winning a Super Bowl. A version of this article appears in print on Jan. 28, 2013, Section D, Page 3 of the New York edition with the headline: The Harbaugh Who Did Not Last in Baltimore. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe​​​​​​​​​​​​
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          • Xenos
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            Originally posted by Xenos View Post



            Elston is confirmed now.

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            • Xenos
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              Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
              This is an article about Jim leading up to the "Harbowl"
              Hortiz mentioned meeting Jim as a Ravens QB in 98 and I had to look it up because I didn't recall him ever playing there.
              Apparently he did.
              worth reading.
              • Share free access
              T The owner Art Modell promised that Baltimore would have an elite team in 1998, but Jim Harbaugh and the Ravens struggled.Credit...Wade Payne/Associated Press

              Until Joe Flacco came along in 2008, being the starting quarterback of the Baltimore Ravens featured all the job security of a department store Santa. Preceding him were the likes of Scott Mitchell, Jeff Blake and Steve McNair. And Elvis Grbac, Anthony Wright and Stoney Case.

              There also was, for one season, a 34-year-old with an average arm and ferocious intensity whose mission on Sunday in New Orleans will be to stop his former team from winning Super Bowl XLVII. His name is Jim Harbaugh, and he coaches the San Francisco 49ers.

              Harbaugh fashioned a solid career in 14 N.F.L. seasons, completing the second-most passes in Chicago Bears history before heading to Indianapolis, where the man known as Captain Comeback led the upstart Colts to within one play of the Super Bowl and was later chosen for the team’s Ring of Honor.

              His next stop, in 1998, was Baltimore. He played 14 games. He lasted 13 months. He threw 12 touchdown passes and 11 interceptions. The Ravens lost 10 times. Harbaugh’s tenure in purple and black, brief and unproductive, was the opposite of his older brother John’s experience while steering the Ravens to three A.F.C. title games in five years.

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              “It was one of those years that you wish you could forget,” said Peter Boulware, a second-year linebacker on that 1998 team. “We did the best we could do, but it just wasn’t a fun season.”

              The season was supposed to be more than just fun. The Ravens, despite finishing 6-9-1 in 1997, began the year freighted with expectations. Their owner, Art Modell, promised an “elite” team for the franchise’s first year at what is now M&T Bank Stadium.

              At quarterback, the Ravens were interested in upgrading from Vinny Testaverde, so they pursued the former Buffalo star Jim Kelly, who was considering a return to the N.F.L., and Harbaugh. Deeming Kelly’s contract demands too high, Baltimore traded two draft picks for Harbaugh, who, as it happens, punched Kelly a year earlier in response to accusations that he exaggerated his injuries.

              The trade reunited Harbaugh with his coach for two seasons in Indianapolis, Ted Marchibroda, who was entering the final year of his contract with Baltimore. Marchibroda admired him so much that, after Harbaugh was drilled out of bounds during the Ravens-Colts game in Indianapolis in 1996, the coach said he was more concerned about Harbaugh’s well-being than about getting the 15-yard penalty.

              ADVERTISEMENT

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              “That’s the only time I ever got into a situation like that,” Marchibroda said from his home in Virginia. “But Jim was a special guy.”

              Harbaugh seemed a natural fit for Marchibroda’s offense, which he knew well. The hope was that a revamped running game, buoyed by Errict Rhett, fullback Roosevelt Potts and a strong offensive line, would create opportunities for Harbaugh, who liked to improvise and throw on the run. ImageScrambling to recover a fumble in 1998, Jim Harbaugh spent one season as a quarterback for the Ravens, going 5-7 as the starter.Credit...Michael S. Green/Associated Press
              "We all respected what Jim had done in the league,” said kicker Matt Stover, who became a co-founder of the Players’ Philanthropy Fund, which streamlines the charitable donation process for athletes. “We knew there was a marriage there, a good relationship with Ted and Jim, and we thought we’d have a really good offense.”

              ADVERTISEMENT

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              Instead, the Ravens’ first game, a 20-13 loss to Pittsburgh, served as a microcosm of their season. Harbaugh was pummeled by the blitzing Carnell Lake in the second quarter, hyperextended a finger on his right hand, and did not return. He started the next two games but failed to make it to halftime in either, yanked because of injury or ineffectiveness.

              Marchibroda replaced him with Eric Zeier, whose strong arm was capable of stretching defenses. Zeier’s spell as the starter lasted a month. He struggled to cope with blitzes. A thumb injury knocked him out in Green Bay. In five of their first seven games, he and Harbaugh shared time. The Ravens were 2-5.

              “It probably wasn’t the ideal situation for either one of us, but the way we handled it together was,” Zeier said. “Never was there animosity. It was always supporting who was on the field and competing to see who could win the job outright.”

              Harbaugh eventually did, his best game — 27 for 34 with three touchdowns — coming in a 26-point defeat at Jacksonville that prompted Modell to tell The Baltimore Sun that he had “never been as embarrassed or as disgraced as I was last night.”

              ADVERTISEMENT

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              Boulware and Zeier remember Harbaugh as a tireless worker with a fiery temperament who did not take losing well. Stover praised his acumen and his passion, saying that Harbaugh fit in well with his new teammates, but added that “not everybody bought in” and that “he wasn’t like the full-fledged leader.”

              “He related well to everybody, encouraged everyone in practice and was a good teammate to have,” Boulware said. “The tough thing was just that — it’s one thing to have a Peyton Manning in your locker room, pumping everybody up, and you know he’s going to go out onto the field and be an all-star. With Jim, it wasn’t like he was going on the field and saying, ‘Follow me and play as good as I’m playing.’ ”

              Even with Baltimore at 2-6, a sliver of optimism existed: Harbaugh, his elbow and finger injuries healed, felt healthy again. A 14-13 loss at San Diego, in which Harbaugh was sacked six times, preceded a two-game winning streak capped by a victory against the Colts in their first visit to Baltimore since relocating 14 years earlier. Afterward, Harbaugh presented the game ball to Johnny Unitas. It was the Ravens’ final highlight. They went on to lose three straight, sealing Marchibroda’s dismissal. Their power running game never materialized. They finished the season with 269 points, the fifth fewest in the league, and ranked last in first downs.

              “There is something missing here,” Harbaugh told The Sun after the third straight loss, at Chicago. “Something is not right. Something is very wrong. I can’t exactly put my finger on it.”

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              Harbaugh did not know it then, but the Ravens already had the defensive foundation for their 2000 championship team: Ray Lewis, Rod Woodson and Tony Siragusa, among others. But Harbaugh was not around to enjoy it; two months after the 1998 season, he was traded to San Diego.

              Because Testaverde played for the franchise when it was based in Cleveland, it was Harbaugh, in a sense, who started the pattern of rotating quarterbacks. Mitchell, Blake and McNair. Grbac, Wright and Case. All came after him, but none exacted revenge. After all these years, Harbaugh can. By winning a Super Bowl. A version of this article appears in print on Jan. 28, 2013, Section D, Page 3 of the New York edition with the headline: The Harbaugh Who Did Not Last in Baltimore. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe​​​​
              Yeah, Hortiz first started as an intern or assistant in 1998. The lone season Harbaugh was with the Ravens before joining us for two seasons.

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              • Xenos
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                Originally posted by Heatmiser View Post
                Clinkscale is pretty good. He was co-defensive coordinator with Minter, although it was not an equal sharing. He also was the defensvie pass game coordinator at Michigan. I figured he would become the DC there; surprised Harbaugh is raiding that cupboard

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                Looks like Clinkscale is staying in Michigan.

                The coaching carousel that carried several coaches away from Michigan over the last couple of weeks has finally brought one back home to Ann Arbor.

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                • dmac_bolt
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                  Originally posted by Boltx View Post
                  Give it a chance.

                  Roman could have been humbled by his Ravens experience and may have evolved from it.

                  Do we think Harbaugh sat out from the NFL all these years just to return and ruin his last (?) run at a SB because of a subpar staff? Jim has been planning every move for years. I'm sure a discussion was had with Roman about what they can BOTH do better this second go around...
                  Roman could have been hamstrung but Lamar's abilities. His interview talking about him taking a year off displayed the thoughtful self-evaluation that successful people need to do to succeed further. Compared to, oh, a Mr Defense who has complete confidence in their plan and how they are implementing it to the bitter end ...
                  “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                  • Lone Bolt
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                    Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                    Roman could have been hamstrung but Lamar's abilities. His interview talking about him taking a year off displayed the thoughtful self-evaluation that successful people need to do to succeed further. Compared to, oh, a Mr Defense who has complete confidence in their plan and how they are implementing it to the bitter end ...
                    Agree on Roman...he fell on his sword with the Ravens, he took the blame...cuz they sure werent going to fire the QB...Monken didnt fair much better...there was forced improvement, with better weapons...but to my eye, Jackson fell apart again in the playoffs...same result.

                    Oline is holding this offense back...Roman can fix that...everything, run and pass, will grow and improve from that.
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                    • dmac_bolt
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                      Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post

                      Agree on Roman...he fell on his sword with the Ravens, he took the blame...cuz they sure werent going to fire the QB...Monken didnt fair much better...there was forced improvement, with better weapons...but to my eye, Jackson fell apart again in the playoffs...same result.

                      Oline is holding this offense back...Roman can fix that...everything, run and pass, will grow and improve from that.
                      I'll go back to my initial 2-part thesis:
                      1. Jim talked to John about Greg and his time with and departure from the Ravens.
                      2. John would never set his bro up to fail

                      Roman is a been there done that dude - he knows how to build and coach an offense. I look forward to a lil smash mouth after watching the Chargers unable to gain a yard in short situations for years. 1st and goal inside the 5, don't even bother to ask what we're gonna do - we're gonna stuff that ball in that fucking endzone and you can't do dick about it, thats what we're gonna do.

                      OH WAIT - play action ... Herbie to Bowers - BOOM! ha, we gonna have it all.
                      “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                      • Xenos
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                        Not the QB coach that I thought would be brought back. Glad Herbert got his QB coach back. Part of me does wonder if Harbaugh and Pep did indeed have a bad break after Michigan. Feels like this also confirms the bad blood between him and Shaw also.





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