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  • SDFan
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    #49
    Originally posted by BlazingBolt View Post
    I would feel better about this season if we had Ryan Mathews instead of Melvin Gordon honestly.

    But whatever on Keenan's injuries. He has proven to be an elite player when on the field. Malcolm Floyd was injury prone too and not nearly as good and look how long he lasted as a bolt...was it a mistake giving him a contract? Keenan has proven to be vital to this offense so it is good we locked him up even if he does miss some games.
    I think last year for Gordon was wasted because they never adjusted the offense to fit his talents and strengths. Everybody projected the mis-match between his production in 1 type offense vs. Rivers in the shotgun so much. Then you add in the sucky Oline and no reliable FB and the odds were against him succeeding. I think if we swapped Gordon for LT in that offense LT had his rookie year- we would have seen similar production from Gordon that LT had. I'm hopeful this year Wiz dials things back on Rivers shouldering too much of the load and relying on passing and shotgun or pistol and we emphasize the running game as the foundation of the offense for moving the chains at will. And that emphasis needs to start early in camp and continue all the way into the season. If I see we actually keep a dedicated FB on the 53 man roster and Rivers under center the majority of the time and the hurry up only used sparingly when situations allow it- like a few series a game- or maybe even a full quarter here and there is the situation calls for it- then I'll know we are on track to having a balanced & productive offense that does more than produce big passing stats for Rivers and individual game stats for Allen and Gates. The combo of Gordon, Oliver and Woodhead should be as potent as any in the league if the offense is tailored for the run game from jump.
    Life is too short to drink cheap beer :beer:

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    • Mister Hoarse
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      #50
      Pass to Run will be 2 to 1 or more.
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      • Lightningwill_420

        #51
        The O'line during Tomlinson's rookie year wasn't good either.

        Tomlinson's first year was very much like Gordon's first year as far as production when given the ball. Both fumbled a lot; they averaged about the same number of yards per carry.

        The difference was that Tomlinson was given a shit-load more carries.
        Last edited by Guest; 06-14-2016, 11:43 AM.

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        • #52
          Tomlinson:
          16 games started

          Rushing
          Rush attempts 339
          Yards 1236
          Rush TDs 10
          Long 54
          Avg 3.6
          Yards per game 77.3
          Attempts per game 21.2

          Receiving
          Targeted 74
          Receptions 59
          Yards 367
          Avg 6.2
          TDs 0
          Long 27
          Rec. per game 3.7
          Yards per game 22.9
          Yards from scrim. 1603
          Fumbles 8

          Gordon:
          13 games started

          Rushing
          Rush attempts 184 (155 less attempts)
          Yards 641
          Rush TDs 0
          Long 27
          Avg 3.5 (.1 less than LT)
          Yards per game 45.8
          Attempts per game 13.1 (8.1 less than LT)

          Receiving
          Targeted 37 (37 less)
          Receptions 33
          Yards 192
          Avg 5.8
          TDs 0
          Long 18
          Rec. per game 2.4
          Yards per game 13.7
          Yards from scrim. 833
          Fumbles 6

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          • Lightningwill_420

            #53
            Originally posted by SuperCharger View Post
            Tomlinson:
            16 games started

            Rushing
            Rush attempts 339
            Yards 1236
            Rush TDs 10
            Long 54
            Avg 3.6
            Yards per game 77.3
            Attempts per game 21.2

            Receiving
            Targeted 74
            Receptions 59
            Yards 367
            Avg 6.2
            TDs 0
            Long 27
            Rec. per game 3.7
            Yards per game 22.9
            Yards from scrim. 1603
            Fumbles 8

            Gordon:
            13 games started

            Rushing
            Rush attempts 184 (155 less attempts)
            Yards 641
            Rush TDs 0
            Long 27
            Avg 3.5 (.1 less than LT)
            Yards per game 45.8
            Attempts per game 13.1 (8.1 less than LT)

            Receiving
            Targeted 37 (37 less)
            Receptions 33
            Yards 192
            Avg 5.8
            TDs 0
            Long 18
            Rec. per game 2.4
            Yards per game 13.7
            Yards from scrim. 833
            Fumbles 6
            Wait. I was right?

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            • SDFan
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              #54
              Originally posted by Bleeding Vagina Who Should Be GM View Post
              The O'line during Tomlinson's rookie year wasn't good either.

              Tomlinson's first year was very much like Gordon's first year as far as production when given the ball. Both fumbled a lot; they averaged about the same number of yards per carry.

              The difference was that Tomlinson was given a shit-load more carries.
              that + they had a REAL FB in Fred "they don't pay me nuthin' anyhow" McCrary + Camoron was sold on the running game and stuck with it. LT's recepts were bolstered by the fact Gates had not arrived yet. That's why I said if you stuck Gordon on that team instead of LT, Gordon would have much better looking production. None of our RBs do as well as they might because they are hampered by taking their handoff from the Shotgun and not having a real FB in front of them opening holes. Once LoNeal was gone, this team has refused to use a real FB and it shows in our YPC and team rushing averages every year since.
              Life is too short to drink cheap beer :beer:

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              • #55
                Originally posted by Bleeding Vagina Who Should Be GM View Post
                Wait. I was right?
                That's what I was trying to show, anyway!

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                • Steve
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                  #56
                  The problem with using a real FB is you have to have one first. Since most colleges don't use FB any more, you pretty much have to go develop your own, and that is tough when you are putting a roster together to have a guy who may not be ready to play right away.

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                  • Lightningwill_420

                    #57
                    Originally posted by Lightningwill_420 View Post
                    I hope I'm wrong, but I say an extension is a bad move. Dude gets hurt too much. Now he's got less reason to bust his ass to rehab from injuries. The only guy on our team I'd risk long term money on is Rivers.
                    Dumbest Fan Here
                    Last edited by Guest; 09-13-2016, 04:13 AM.

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                    • KNSD
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                      #58
                      Originally posted by Lightningwill_420 View Post
                      Dumbest Fan Here
                      Downvote. Negative Rep. "

                      You must spread some hate before negative repping this poster again."

                      Sucks for Allen and I feel bad for the guy. He's the one player on the team that has significantly improved over time.
                      Prediction:
                      Correct: Chargers CI fails miserably.
                      Fail: Team stays in San Diego until their lease runs out in 2020. (without getting new deal done by then) .
                      Sig Bet WIN: The Chargers will file for relocation on January 15.

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                      • Lightningwill_420

                        #59
                        Originally posted by KNSD View Post
                        Downvote. Negative Rep. "

                        You must spread some hate before negative repping this poster again."

                        Sucks for Allen and I feel bad for the guy. He's the one player on the team that has significantly improved over time.
                        Rivers is the one player on the team who has significantly improved over time.
                        Allen's best year was his first year.

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                        • Steve
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                          #60
                          Allen has improved dramatically as a route runner. He had Peters completely confused and lost in coverage. To say he is not a better WR now than as a rookie is being completely ignorant of how much better he has become as a route runner.

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