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  • ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR
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    #25
    Originally posted by bonehead View Post
    does Telesco ever do anything right??
    Certainly not Allen, Dunlap, Verrett, Flowers (year one), Emmanuel, Attaochu or Barksdale. Could even argue Fluker but he's moved so much and had so many injuries it's hard to evaluate. Maybe Teo.

    Nope, none of that was worth a damn.

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    • BlazingBolt
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      #26
      Originally posted by ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR View Post
      Certainly not Allen, Dunlap, Verrett, Flowers (year one), Emmanuel, Attaochu or Barksdale. Could even argue Fluker but he's moved so much and had so many injuries it's hard to evaluate. Maybe Teo.

      Nope, none of that was worth a damn.

      Verrett only pro bowler and only made it as an alternate
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      • ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR
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        #27
        Originally posted by BlazingBolt View Post
        Verrett only pro bowler and only made it as an alternate
        Verrett is a young player without the name recognition at a position that was stocked in the AFC. Pro Bowl appearances aren't the mark of a good draft pick...look at the rosters to see my point. Merrett was a shutdown corner and is now the best player on our defense. He was a damn good draft pick.

        Allen is our best receiver and last year was playing lights out when he was injured. He was on pace for a huge season. And probably the PB since you're so concerned about that. Dunlap's been a darn good LT for us when he's been healthy. He was pulled off the scrap heap and has shown all the naysayers to be off the mark.

        Emmanuel and Attaochu are young developmental players who have shown a lot of potential. Attaochu in particular. Barksdale was another guy that people dumped on. He was the steadiest OL we had last year both in terms of health and quality of play. Not saying much, but it was a good buy low pickup that worked out well.

        Fluker and Te'o have both shown to be no less than solid starters.

        Sorry, I left out several other guys. Perryman, who looks like a big time player to me and basically forced Butler out. Herndon and Inman both look like they have some juice as UDFA guys. Inman will likely start for us next year. Lambo was one of the top and most surprising pickups for us last year, allowing us to free up some money from Novak. Brandon Oliver? I think he could start for us, frankly. His health and the OL have slowed him though. Another UDFA. Mager showed something. Philon has some serious upside IMO. How about Patrick Robinson? Brought in to be our nickel and aside from Weddle and Verrett our best DB last year. Where would we have been without him? I think he also signed Woodhead. Clearly another fuckup. He might've also brought in the right combination of coaches to get PR back on track...maybe, right?

        Look, I acknowledge that he's had some more frequent than I would like to see big whiffs on high dollar guys. But blindly shooting him down without acknowledging all of his fine work otherwise is a pretty one-sided appraisal. He's not Belichick, but he's a young guy learning on the job who's brought in some very good players and some who show solid potential.

        Sorry, facts are nettlesome.

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        • Wheels
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          #28
          Originally posted by ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR View Post
          Verrett is a young player without the name recognition at a position that was stocked in the AFC. Pro Bowl appearances aren't the mark of a good draft pick...look at the rosters to see my point. Merrett was a shutdown corner and is now the best player on our defense. He was a damn good draft pick.

          Allen is our best receiver and last year was playing lights out when he was injured. He was on pace for a huge season. And probably the PB since you're so concerned about that. Dunlap's been a darn good LT for us when he's been healthy. He was pulled off the scrap heap and has shown all the naysayers to be off the mark.

          Emmanuel and Attaochu are young developmental players who have shown a lot of potential. Attaochu in particular. Barksdale was another guy that people dumped on. He was the steadiest OL we had last year both in terms of health and quality of play. Not saying much, but it was a good buy low pickup that worked out well.

          Fluker and Te'o have both shown to be no less than solid starters.

          Sorry, I left out several other guys. Perryman, who looks like a big time player to me and basically forced Butler out. Herndon and Inman both look like they have some juice as UDFA guys. Inman will likely start for us next year. Lambo was one of the top and most surprising pickups for us last year, allowing us to free up some money from Novak. Brandon Oliver? I think he could start for us, frankly. His health and the OL have slowed him though. Another UDFA. Mager showed something. Philon has some serious upside IMO. How about Patrick Robinson? Brought in to be our nickel and aside from Weddle and Verrett our best DB last year. Where would we have been without him? I think he also signed Woodhead. Clearly another fuckup. He might've also brought in the right combination of coaches to get PR back on track...maybe, right?

          Look, I acknowledge that he's had some more frequent than I would like to see big whiffs on high dollar guys. But blindly shooting him down without acknowledging all of his fine work otherwise is a pretty one-sided appraisal. He's not Belichick, but he's a young guy learning on the job who's brought in some very good players and some who show solid potential.

          Sorry, facts are nettlesome.
          Teo is a player that gets dumped on a lot on this forum, but I saw a rapidly ascending player last year who finally was getting it. His instincts had him in position a lot. If he didn't have several high profile missed tackles in the backfield, he probably would be getting more praise around here. Also, never a good idea to be the target of a trade up or you're persona non grata in this forum.

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          • bonehead
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            #29
            Hey I was just joking about Chi Chi
            Forget it Donny you're out of your element

            Shut the fuck up Donny

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              #30
              Originally posted by bonehead View Post
              Hey I was just joking about Chi Chi
              He was a great golfer, too bad he couldn't transition successfully into the NFL. One of TT's whiffs.

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              • BlazingBolt
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                #31
                Originally posted by ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR View Post
                Verrett is a young player without the name recognition at a position that was stocked in the AFC. Pro Bowl appearances aren't the mark of a good draft pick...look at the rosters to see my point. Merrett was a shutdown corner and is now the best player on our defense. He was a damn good draft pick.

                Allen is our best receiver and last year was playing lights out when he was injured. He was on pace for a huge season. And probably the PB since you're so concerned about that. Dunlap's been a darn good LT for us when he's been healthy. He was pulled off the scrap heap and has shown all the naysayers to be off the mark.

                Emmanuel and Attaochu are young developmental players who have shown a lot of potential. Attaochu in particular. Barksdale was another guy that people dumped on. He was the steadiest OL we had last year both in terms of health and quality of play. Not saying much, but it was a good buy low pickup that worked out well.

                Fluker and Te'o have both shown to be no less than solid starters.

                Sorry, I left out several other guys. Perryman, who looks like a big time player to me and basically forced Butler out. Herndon and Inman both look like they have some juice as UDFA guys. Inman will likely start for us next year. Lambo was one of the top and most surprising pickups for us last year, allowing us to free up some money from Novak. Brandon Oliver? I think he could start for us, frankly. His health and the OL have slowed him though. Another UDFA. Mager showed something. Philon has some serious upside IMO. How about Patrick Robinson? Brought in to be our nickel and aside from Weddle and Verrett our best DB last year. Where would we have been without him? I think he also signed Woodhead. Clearly another fuckup. He might've also brought in the right combination of coaches to get PR back on track...maybe, right?

                Look, I acknowledge that he's had some more frequent than I would like to see big whiffs on high dollar guys. But blindly shooting him down without acknowledging all of his fine work otherwise is a pretty one-sided appraisal. He's not Belichick, but he's a young guy learning on the job who's brought in some very good players and some who show solid potential.

                Sorry, facts are nettlesome.
                Year 3
                4-12
                FACT

                I see your polyanna point, but wouldn't it be better if we had more pro bowlers? He has brought in some good players and Verrett looks to be the best one so far and he has the pro bowl appearance....hope he can stay healthy
                Last edited by BlazingBolt; 03-03-2016, 04:19 PM.
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                • Lightningwill_420

                  #32
                  Bout time.

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                  • Bearded14YourPleasure
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                    #33
                    People keep pointing at the 4-12 record and blaming TT and the lack of talent on the roster. Of those 12 losses 8 of them are by 7 points or less (5 of those 8 by less than a TD). To me that's not a talent issue, but a coaching issue. Yes, yes, TT brought in McCoy but at a certain point McCoy himself has to be held accountable. With this team you always have to wonder how much say the Spanoses have on TTs decisions as well.

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                    • Little_Charger
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                      #34
                      I heart chi chis
                      Mission: Valley.

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                      • Lightningwill_420

                        #35
                        Originally posted by Bearded14YourPleasure View Post
                        People keep pointing at the 4-12 record and blaming TT and the lack of talent on the roster. Of those 12 losses 8 of them are by 7 points or less (5 of those 8 by less than a TD). To me that's not a talent issue, but a coaching issue. Yes, yes, TT brought in McCoy but at a certain point McCoy himself has to be held accountable. With this team you always have to wonder how much say the Spanoses have on TTs decisions as well.
                        Yes I am, and yes he did.

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                        • Fleet
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                          #36
                          The Union-Tribune San Diego believes the "lasting image" of free agent ILB Donald Butler in San Diego will be "that of a thief."
                          Normally positive and always professional reporter Kevin Acee built on his Thursday Twitter criticism in a blog post. Acee says he finds it "(difficult to understand) how a man with any pride could even have shown up at Chargers Park the past year or so with as much as Butler stole from the team." Acee is convinced Butler "lost interest" after getting his contract extension, and believes there were games "after which his uniform might have actually been clean." Acee also believes Butler may have attempted a turnaround in 2015, but that it was already too late. If Acee has noticed these things, you can be certain other front offices have, as well.

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