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  • 21&500
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    From the Athletic:


    Chargers training camp officially gets underway July 26 in Costa Mesa, Calif., and the 53-man roster will firmly take shape in the summer heat at Jack R. Hammett Sports Complex.

    We started to get a sense of what this active roster might look like through spring practices, which concluded earlier this month at mandatory minicamp. But as coach Brandon Staley said, the spring is “more teaching and learning than evaluating.” The real evaluation has to wait until the pads come on in training camp, and there will be plenty to assess as some feisty back-of-the-roster battles unfold.



    For now, with training camp less than a month away, this is my best shot at projecting the final 53-man roster with the intel we could glean during the spring.

    Quarterbacks (3)


    Justin Herbert
    Easton Stick
    Max Duggan

    Who’s out: No one

    Analysis: If this was last season, I would be projecting only two quarterbacks on the 53-man: Herbert and Stick. Stick has the backup job locked down. I do not see Duggan challenging him for the spot. And there are players at other positions who I think bring more value to the roster than Duggan. However, NFL owners approved a new bylaw for 2023 that allows teams to designate an emergency third quarterback on game days as long as that QB is on the 53-man active roster. The emergency quarterback is eligible to play only if the two other QBs cannot participate because of injury or disqualification. That new rule changes the approach a bit.

    As a quick refresher, teams are allowed to keep 53 players on their active roster. For game days, they are allowed to elevate up to two additional players from their practice squad, bringing the active roster to 55. Of those 55 players, 48 can be active for the game, as long as eight of those 48 players are offensive linemen. The other seven players are inactive and do not dress. It can be fewer than seven inactives if a team elevates fewer than two players from the practice squad.

    Keeping Duggan would allow the Chargers to take advantage of that emergency QB rule. The alternative is keeping a different player over Duggan on the 53-man. But that player would merely be a game day inactive. Duggan would effectively serve as a 49th active player if needed, and I have a hard time seeing the Chargers eschewing that potential advantage.


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    Running backs (3)


    Austin Ekeler
    Joshua Kelley
    Isaiah Spiller

    Who’s out: Larry Rountree, Elijah Dotson, Tyler Hoosman


    Analysis: The Chargers kept four running backs on last year’s 53-man roster, as Rountree made the cut. But that was short-lived. Rountree was waived on Aug. 31, a day after final cuts, to make room for Sony Michel. Rountree then spent the season jumping between the Chargers’ practice squad and the active roster. He cleared waivers multiple times during the season. We will see how Rountree looks in camp, but for now, I think the Chargers will be best off rolling with three backs and stashing Rountree on the practice squad.

    Fullback (1)


    Zander Horvath

    Who’s out: No one

    Analysis: As a rookie in 2022, Horvath emerged as a core-four special teams player for coordinator Ryan Ficken. The Chargers have been looking for a Derek Watt replacement ever since they let Watt walk in free agency in 2020. The archetype: a versatile, athletic fullback who can make his biggest impact on special teams. They drafted Horvath to develop into that player. He took an important first step last season. Horvath has the ability to move around and play multiple positions on both kickoff and punt coverage at a high level, and that is very valuable. He makes the roster for that reason primarily.

    Wide receivers (6)


    Keenan Allen
    Mike Williams
    Joshua Palmer
    Quentin Johnston
    Derius Davis
    Jalen Guyton

    Who’s out: Keelan Doss, John Hightower, Pokey Wilson, Darrius Shepherd, Terrell Bynum

    Analysis: The last spot in this group will be a fascinating battle to watch. Allen, Williams, Palmer, Johnston and Davis are locks, as far as I see it. Davis will be the kick and punt returner for the Chargers in 2023, barring an injury. I have Guyton making the roster as the sixth receiver because of his deep-field speed and size combo. But keep an eye on Doss, who was regularly working with the first team in the spring while Williams was absent and Palmer was nursing his injury. Doss has solid size and strong hands and made a bunch of plays in OTAs and minicamp. Guyton is coming off a torn ACL. He missed spring practices. His health could be a factor.

    Tight ends (4)


    Gerald Everett
    Donald Parham Jr.
    Tre’ McKitty
    Stone Smartt


    Who’s out: Hunter Kampmoyer, Michael Ezeike

    Analysis: Smartt was getting more run with the first team during the spring, so I have him as the fourth tight end over Kampmoyer for now. But this battle is going to come down to blocking. The Chargers need some more juice in the run game, and we will not be able to evaluate that facet until the pads come on.

    Offensive line (9)


    Rashawn Slater
    Zion Johnson
    Corey Linsley
    Jamaree Salyer
    Trey Pipkins
    Will Clapp
    Jordan McFadden
    Zack Bailey
    Foster Sarell

    Who’s out: Brenden Jaimes, Isaac Weaver, Austen Pleasants, Andrew Trainer, Nic Melsop, Johari Branch

    Analysis: The Chargers are really high on Bailey and think he can be a more reliable backup guard than Jaimes, who has struggled in his young NFL career. Jaimes has a big camp in front of him. He must show improvement if he wants to make the active roster. Clapp is the backup center. McFadden was drafted in the fifth round. Those are locks. I have Sarell as my final offensive lineman to add more tackle depth. He showed flashes when he was asked to play right tackle last year.

    It’s unclear when defensive tackle Otito Ogbonnia will be 100 percent healthy after suffering a knee injury last season. (Kyle Terada / USA Today)

    Defensive line (6)


    Sebastian Joseph-Day
    Austin Johnson
    Morgan Fox
    Otito Ogbonnia
    Scott Matlock
    Christopher Hinton

    Who’s out: Nick Williams, David Moa, Jerrod Clark, Terrance Lang, CJ Okoye

    Analysis: Johnson and Ogbonnia are still rehabbing knee injuries from last season. Neither participated in spring practices. So a big part of projecting this group comes down to projecting how fast those two return. We will see if either or both start training camp on the physically unable to perform (PUP) list and adjust according. Williams was a late-offseason signing and provides veteran insurance in case Johnson and/or Ogbonnia are forced to miss regular-season action. For the time being, we will project optimistic outcomes for Johnson and Ogbonnia.

    Edge rushers (4)


    Joey Bosa
    Khalil Mack
    Tuli Tuipulotu
    Chris Rumph II


    Who’s out: Carlo Kemp, Ty Shelby, Brevin Allen, Andrew Farmer

    Analysis: No surprises here. These top four seem set. Tuipulotu finally signed his rookie deal this week, so he should be all systems go for the start of camp.


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    Linebackers (5)


    Eric Kendricks
    Kenneth Murray
    Daiyan Henley
    Nick Niemann
    Amen Ogbongbemiga

    Who’s out: Tyreek Maddox-Williams, Mikel Jones, Nathan East

    Analysis: Ogbongbemiga played more special teams snaps than any other Charger last season at 356. Niemann ranked fourth. The players in second and third on that list — Derrek Tuszka and Troy Reeder — are no longer on the roster. Niemann and Ogbongbemiga are going to be key pieces on special teams this season. The Chargers also believe Henley will make a big impact on special teams.

    Safety (4)


    Derwin James Jr.
    Alohi Gilman
    JT Woods
    Raheem Layne

    Who’s out: Mark Webb, A.J. Finley, Tyler Baker-Williams, Michael Jacquet

    Analysis: There will be a few big battles at safety during camp. Woods is going to get a chance to prove himself, and it will be up to Gilman to fend him off and keep his starting job. James, Woods and Gilman are all locks to make the roster. The battle with higher stakes is for that fourth safety spot. Layne was a camp standout last year and carved out a nice role on special teams for Ficken in 2022. He also has the flexibility to play Money in dime packages. Webb has flashed at times in his career, but he has just not been able to stay healthy. If Webb can stay on the field, I could absolutely see him pushing Layne for a roster spot.

    Cornerback (5)


    J.C. Jackson
    Michael Davis
    Asante Samuel Jr.
    Ja’Sir Taylor
    Deane Leonard

    Who’s out: Kemon Hall, Cam Brown, Tiawan Mullen, AJ Uzodinma

    Analysis: Without the emergency quarterback rule, I would be keeping Hall on the 53-man. He can play multiple positions in the secondary, including sub roles at Star and Money. He also is a versatile and experienced special teams player. But he ended up being my odd man out to make room for Duggan.

    Specialists (3)


    P JK Scott
    LS Josh Harris
    K Dustin Hopkins


    Who’s out: K Cameron Dicker

    Analysis: I am giving Hopkins a slight edge in the kicker battle heading into camp, based predominantly on his experience and stronger leg. But this competition is still very much up in the air.
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    • sonorajim
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      Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post

      Simmons would be too much a liability in run D.
      Some teams can get away with that: not the Chargers.
      As a Callahan replacement? Slot or star was his highest graded position in Ariz.

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      • Velo
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        NCAS = good.

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          Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
          Derwin James Jr.
          Alohi Gilman
          JT Woods
          Raheem Layne

          Who’s out: Mark Webb, A.J. Finley, Tyler Baker-Williams, Michael Jacquet

          Analysis: There will be a few big battles at safety during camp. Woods is going to get a chance to prove himself, and it will be up to Gilman to fend him off and keep his starting job. James, Woods and Gilman are all locks to make the roster. The battle with higher stakes is for that fourth safety spot. Layne was a camp standout last year and carved out a nice role on special teams for Ficken in 2022. He also has the flexibility to play Money in dime packages. Webb has flashed at times in his career, but he has just not been able to stay healthy. If Webb can stay on the field, I could absolutely see him pushing Layne for a roster spot.
          Layne over Webb? Not so sure about that.

          Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
          Who’s out: K Cameron Dicker

          Analysis: I am giving Hopkins a slight edge in the kicker battle heading into camp, based predominantly on his experience and stronger leg. But this competition is still very much up in the air.
          No. They are going with Dicker.

          Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
          Keenan Allen
          Mike Williams
          Joshua Palmer
          Quentin Johnston
          Derius Davis
          Jalen Guyton

          Who’s out: Keelan Doss, John Hightower, Pokey Wilson, Darrius Shepherd, Terrell Bynum

          Analysis: The last spot in this group will be a fascinating battle to watch. Allen, Williams, Palmer, Johnston and Davis are locks, as far as I see it. Davis will be the kick and punt returner for the Chargers in 2023, barring an injury. I have Guyton making the roster as the sixth receiver because of his deep-field speed and size combo. But keep an eye on Doss, who was regularly working with the first team in the spring while Williams was absent and Palmer was nursing his injury. Doss has solid size and strong hands and made a bunch of plays in OTAs and minicamp. Guyton is coming off a torn ACL. He missed spring practices. His health could be a factor.
          This is what I've been saying.

          Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
          J.C. Jackson
          Michael Davis
          Asante Samuel Jr.
          Ja’Sir Taylor
          Deane Leonard

          Who’s out: Kemon Hall, Cam Brown, Tiawan Mullen, AJ Uzodinma

          Analysis: Without the emergency quarterback rule, I would be keeping Hall on the 53-man. He can play multiple positions in the secondary, including sub roles at Star and Money. He also is a versatile and experienced special teams player. But he ended up being my odd man out to make room for Duggan.
          I've read elsewhere that Tiawan Mullen is going to be a UDFA steal. We'll see. His brother is Trayvon Mullen, drafted by the Raiders, now with the Ravens. Their cousin is Lamar Jackson.

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          • Velo
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            Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
            Quarterbacks (3)


            Justin Herbert
            Easton Stick
            Max Duggan

            Who’s out: No one

            Analysis: If this was last season, I would be projecting only two quarterbacks on the 53-man: Herbert and Stick. Stick has the backup job locked down. I do not see Duggan challenging him for the spot. And there are players at other positions who I think bring more value to the roster than Duggan. However, NFL owners approved a new bylaw for 2023 that allows teams to designate an emergency third quarterback on game days as long as that QB is on the 53-man active roster. The emergency quarterback is eligible to play only if the two other QBs cannot participate because of injury or disqualification. That new rule changes the approach a bit.

            As a quick refresher, teams are allowed to keep 53 players on their active roster. For game days, they are allowed to elevate up to two additional players from their practice squad, bringing the active roster to 55. Of those 55 players, 48 can be active for the game, as long as eight of those 48 players are offensive linemen. The other seven players are inactive and do not dress. It can be fewer than seven inactives if a team elevates fewer than two players from the practice squad.

            Keeping Duggan would allow the Chargers to take advantage of that emergency QB rule. The alternative is keeping a different player over Duggan on the 53-man. But that player would merely be a game day inactive. Duggan would effectively serve as a 49th active player if needed, and I have a hard time seeing the Chargers eschewing that potential advantage.
            Not sure why they need a third QB. I could see Duggan or Easton demoted to the PS if there is another player they really want to keep on the roster.

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            • Ghost of Quacksaw
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              Originally posted by Velo View Post
              Not sure why they need a third QB. I could see Duggan or Easton demoted to the PS if there is another player they really want to keep on the roster.
              Concur. Because unless they think that Duggan would have been a vastly more accurate passer at TCU, if *only* he had better pass protection, then using a roster spot on him only actually protects the team in a game in which BOTH Herb and Stick had to leave the contest due to injury. And I'd estimate the chances of *that* in the range of 1 in 100. Maybe longer odds, say 1 : 150

              Which is to say: the chances of that happening-- both QBs leaving the game with injuries, and the team needing a third QB-- might happen once every 6 to 10 years!

              Maybe they think that Duggan is the next Joe Montana. But unless they do, it makes no sense to *me* that they'd conserve a roster spot for him.
              Last edited by Ghost of Quacksaw; 06-29-2023, 05:11 PM.

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              • Heatmiser
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                I think pretty much every team will carry three qb now. They petitioned for the rule change and I think they all saw what happened to the 49ers last season. Not saying Dugan is the best choice for qb3, just that I get carrying three of the guys.



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                • ChargersPowderBlue
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                  Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post

                  Concur. Because unless they think that Duggan would have been a vastly more accurate passer at TCU, if *only* he had better pass protection, then using a roster spot on him only actually protects the team in a game in which BOTH Herb and Stick had to leave the contest due to injury.
                  Stick will have to prove that he is worthy of being the backup to Herbert. He has not been all that impressive in his 4 years with the organization.

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                    Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
                    Analysis: The Chargers kept four running backs on last year’s 53-man roster, as Rountree made the cut. But that was short-lived. Rountree was waived on Aug. 31, a day after final cuts, to make room for Sony Michel. Rountree then spent the season jumping between the Chargers’ practice squad and the active roster. He cleared waivers multiple times during the season. We will see how Rountree looks in camp, but for now, I think the Chargers will be best off rolling with three backs and stashing Rountree on the practice squad.
                    Hard to believe Rountree is still on the roster...the dude just hasn't shown much at all...not even a JAG, he's JAG-minus...come on, TT, at least sign a decent vet FA RB...

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                      Originally posted by ChargersPowderBlue View Post

                      Stick will have to prove that he is worthy of being the backup to Herbert. He has not been all that impressive in his 4 years with the organization.
                      Right...if Duggan shows something in TC and preseason games, it's STICK to the PS...

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                        Originally posted by Velo View Post
                        I've read elsewhere that Tiawan Mullen is going to be a UDFA steal. We'll see. His brother is Trayvon Mullen, drafted by the Raiders, now with the Ravens. Their cousin is Lamar Jackson.
                        I'd like to see Mullen light a fire under JaSir and Leonard for their roster spot...

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                          Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
                          Analysis: The Chargers are really high on Bailey and think he can be a more reliable backup guard than Jaimes, who has struggled in his young NFL career. Jaimes has a big camp in front of him. He must show improvement if he wants to make the active roster. Clapp is the backup center. McFadden was drafted in the fifth round. Those are locks. I have Sarell as my final offensive lineman to add more tackle depth. He showed flashes when he was asked to play right tackle last year.
                          What I've seen of Bailey in preseason hasn't been all that impressive, but maybe he's improving like Pip did...Jaimes hasn't shown much at all...agree he could be a cut...we need QUALITY backups, not scrubs...

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