2023 Official Roster Build Thread - The Initial 53 / Practice Squad

[dmac_bolt]

Last year, the Chiefs traded their best Wr for picks
Then, they won the SuperBowl with 10 rookies

I keep seeing that “10 rookies” stat over and over. How many of those rookies were starting? I know it was a few, and another one or two more later after some injuries. but I also know it wasn’t 10 starters so let’s all just cut the shit with “they had 10 rookies”.

We had 11 rookies according to the current roster on Chargers.com. Apparently the Chargers adding more rookies doesnt work like it does in KC and the proponents of “more Charger rookies” may not be over the target.

What is the average number of rookies on an NFL roster each year - all 32 teams, anyway, between draft picks and UDFAs? Is it around 8? Is it 10 maybe? And what is KC’s average number of rookies on the roster each year, say the last 10 yrs? Do they have 10 rookies on their roster every year, was this actually different?

Data is a bitch.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

More than we can pay. Bijan would be much cheaper

That's... if Bijan isn't gone before #21, and if that's who Telesco goes with.

Not every hole the Bolts have can be filled with a cheap rookie, unfortunately.

Again, I realize Jacobs wouldn't be realistic, cap-wise. But this particular draft may not see the Bolts take a RB who's any more promising than Isaish Spiller was a year ago.

[Berserker76]

I keep seeing that “10 rookies” stat over and over. How many of those rookies were starting? I know it was a few, and another one or two more later after some injuries. but I also know it wasn’t 10 starters so let’s all just cut the shit with “they had 10 rookies”.

We had 11 rookies according to the current roster on Chargers.com. Apparently the Chargers adding more rookies doesnt work like it does in KC and the proponents of “more Charger rookies” may not be over the target.

What is the average number of rookies on an NFL roster each year - all 32 teams, anyway, between draft picks and UDFAs? Is it around 8? Is it 10 maybe? And what is KC’s average number of rookies on the roster each year, say the last 10 yrs? Do they have 10 rookies on their roster every year, was this actually different?

Data is a bitch.

The Chiefs had four rookies starting on their Super Bowl team. Hate the Chiefs or not, you have to admit that is pretty impressive. Like you said, just drafting a bunch of rookies doesn't mean squat. A team has to draft the right rookies and have the right staff to lead them.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

I keep seeing that “10 rookies” stat over and over. How many of those rookies were starting? I know it was a few, and another one or two more later after some injuries. but I also know it wasn’t 10 starters so let’s all just cut the shit with “they had 10 rookies”.

We had 11 rookies according to the current roster on Chargers.com. Apparently the Chargers adding more rookies doesnt work like it does in KC and the proponents of “more Charger rookies” may not be over the target.

What is the average number of rookies on an NFL roster each year - all 32 teams, anyway, between draft picks and UDFAs? Is it around 8? Is it 10 maybe? And what is KC’s average number of rookies on the roster each year, say the last 10 yrs? Do they have 10 rookies on their roster every year, was this actually different?

Data is a bitch.

The point is that the Chiefs got outstanding production from late round picks. RB Isaiah Pacheco comes to mind. 7th round RB who got the job done whenever called upon. Then you look at the (lack of) production the Bolts got from 3rd rounder Woods and 4th rounder Spiller, and all you can do is shake your head.

[dmac_bolt]

The Chiefs had four rookies starting on their Super Bowl team. Hate the Chiefs or not, you have to admit that is pretty impressive. Like you said, just drafting a bunch of rookies doesn't mean squat. A team has to draft the right rookies and have the right staff to lead them.

Is it? the Chargers had 3 rookies starting I can think or without checking the roster … Zion, Salyer, Dicker. A 4th was our starting FB Horvath though we never saw him so not sure i can count him. We had an CB have to come in, but he was not technically a starter in the last game.

KC is wonderful, they are fabulous, yeah yeah, i get it. But are their 4 rookie starters really different quantity than the average NFL teams year in and a year out? Beats me …you don’t know either it appears.

At least we’ve gotten off the stupid as “KC had 10 rookies on their team” fake stat bullshit. I’ll bet without looking that some of them weren’t even active and suited up on game days.

[Boltjolt]

That's... if Bijan isn't gone before #21, and if that's who Telesco goes with.

Not every hole the Bolts have can be filled with a cheap rookie, unfortunately.

Again, I realize Jacobs wouldn't be realistic, cap-wise. But this particular draft may not see the Bolts take a RB who's any more promising than Isaish Spiller was a year ago.

All true. He may not be there and what we want may not be what they are thinking.

[beachcomber]

That's... if Bijan isn't gone before #21, and if that's who Telesco goes with.

Not every hole the Bolts have can be filled with a cheap rookie, unfortunately.

Again, I realize Jacobs wouldn't be realistic, cap-wise. But this particular draft may not see the Bolts take a RB who's any more promising than Isaish Spiller was a year ago.

every time eye take a deeper dive, there is just more and more talent @RB in this draft....

Bijan, Jahmyr, Devon Achane, Charbonnet, Kenny McIntosh, DeWayne McBride, Israel Abanikanda, Travis Dye, and.... who else ??

[Topcat]

The point is that the Chiefs got outstanding production from late round picks. RB Isaiah Pacheco comes to mind. 7th round RB who got the job done whenever called upon. Then you look at the (lack of) production the Bolts got from 3rd rounder Woods and 4th rounder Spiller, and all you can do is shake your head.

Yep...SMH is right...apparently, the Bolt Brass was wowed by Woods being the top ballhawk in the nation, but forgot about one little detail...he's a crappy tackler...oops...

[nomad1946]

Jahmyr running behind Slater and Salyer?

[rensoul]

I keep seeing that “10 rookies” stat over and over. How many of those rookies were starting? I know it was a few, and another one or two more later after some injuries. but I also know it wasn’t 10 starters so let’s all just cut the shit with “they had 10 rookies”.

We had 11 rookies according to the current roster on Chargers.com. Apparently the Chargers adding more rookies doesnt work like it does in KC and the proponents of “more Charger rookies” may not be over the target.

What is the average number of rookies on an NFL roster each year - all 32 teams, anyway, between draft picks and UDFAs? Is it around 8? Is it 10 maybe? And what is KC’s average number of rookies on the roster each year, say the last 10 yrs? Do they have 10 rookies on their roster every year, was this actually different?

Data is a bitch.

They did have an unusual amount of rookies playing throughout the season/playoffs.
On defense the guys that played a bunch were 1st round-McDuffie, 1st round-Karlaftis, 2nd round-Cook, 4th round- Williams, 7th round- Watson and by mid to late in the season 3rd round-Chenal was a regular part of their rotation. On offense they had 7th round Pacheco and 2nd round Moore who mainly played a backup role.

That's a lot of rookies that played a lot of snaps.
It would be like having to feature Spiller on offense and on defense rolling with Leonard/Taylor/Woods all playing a ton of snaps and starts through the year/playoffs.

[Bolt4Knob]

Yep...SMH is right...apparently, the Bolt Brass was wowed by Woods being the top ballhawk in the nation, but forgot about one little detail...he's a crappy tackler...oops...

Telesco is consistent in one thing - his draft picks in rounds 3 through 5 have been pretty mediocre at best.

He has traded up four times and none of the players, well Murray is too be determined, will have gotten a second contract

Only five players of the 40+ he has drafted have received a second contract and four of those were no-brainers

Can only hope he has a solid draft this year. I would prefer he go for a bunch of doubles unlike JT Woods - a safety who cannot tackle.

[Boltnut]

I keep seeing that “10 rookies” stat over and over. How many of those rookies were starting? I know it was a few, and another one or two more later after some injuries. but I also know it wasn’t 10 starters so let’s all just cut the shit with “they had 10 rookies”.

We had 11 rookies according to the current roster on Chargers.com. Apparently the Chargers adding more rookies doesnt work like it does in KC and the proponents of “more Charger rookies” may not be over the target.

What is the average number of rookies on an NFL roster each year - all 32 teams, anyway, between draft picks and UDFAs? Is it around 8? Is it 10 maybe? And what is KC’s average number of rookies on the roster each year, say the last 10 yrs? Do they have 10 rookies on their roster every year, was this actually different?

Data is a bitch.

They use the argument to justify their stance that Keenan Allen should be traded.
But the fact is... none of those 10 rookies will ever be as good as the 5-time Pro Bowler and former 3rd-round pick.

Having said that, the Chiefs did a nice job drafting. McDuffie, Cook, Chenal, and Watson often ended up in my mock drafts last off-season.
I thought Karlaftis and Skyy were over-rated. Let's not forget that 6th-round Salyer handled 1st-round Karlaftis pretty easily...