Originally posted by like54ninjas
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Week 5 Browns at Chargers Pregame Discussion
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Got it straight from a Minnesota fan, Vikings are not a good team. Holding them to seven should not be something to crow about, and only scoring twice on them is pathetic, they said.
So many plays have been so close, this is the game it all comes together for us. Big time beat down of the Browns ahead.
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Originally posted by Heatmiser View PostI get to watch Mayfield a lot here. He had a great game against the Texans. Then the last two games, Stefanski has been trying to put the ball in his hands more and Mayfield has been responding by (what looks like to me) trying way too hard and not just playing. He tries to put everything he has into every throw when it is not necesssary. And unlike Herbert who can effortlessly throw, Mayfield has to use his whole body to do it. And his body is little for an NFL QB. He also is trying too hard to appease OBJ. If you look at his stats with and without OBJ since OBJ joined the team, it is pretty staggering how much better he plays without him. I don't know why Stefanski is trying to ask Mayfield to do more. But it is clear Mayfield cannot do it.
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There is a history here. Of OBJ not feeling like he got enough targets. Of fan pressure on Mayfield. Of expectations that the first overall pick of the draft with the best OL in football and two really, really good RBs, 3 really good TEs, 2 really good WRs and a good offensive coach should play way better. And unlike Herbert, Mayfield has a HUGE ego and that has to be managed along with the big egos of OBJ and Landry.Like, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.
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Originally posted by AK47 View Post
This is likely true but they played the Texans whom only scored 9 points vs Panthers and Shut out with 0 points vs Bills.
Played a 1-3 Vikings team.
Played the Bears whom had a rookie QB with highly questionable offensive game plan/protection at the time.
The common opponent Chiefs they gave up 33 while we gave up 24.
Meanwhile we played the Cowboys, Raiders, Chiefs whom are all top offenses and limited them. Even the WFT had 2 30-poit games thus far and we limited them to 16.
The above teams have gashed us for huge running yards (except Turds) but mattered little in final outcome. They can't just lean on defense and their running game.
They're going to need to have Baker have a good game.
Justin MFIC Herbert will find the way. Staley will shut down the run and lure Mayfield into throwing the ball to our DBs. Baker is playing crippled.“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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Originally posted by Heatmiser View PostThere is a history here. Of OBJ not feeling like he got enough targets. Of fan pressure on Mayfield. Of expectations that the first overall pick of the draft with the best OL in football and two really, really good RBs, 3 really good TEs, 2 really good WRs and a good offensive coach should play way better. And unlike Herbert, Mayfield has a HUGE ego and that has to be managed along with the big egos of OBJ and Landry.
* OBJ is not close to the player he once was - plus he's a headache
* Landry is out
* Donavon Peoples Jones is a 6th round pick that has not produced yet
* Austin Hooper's best days are behind him
* Daniel Nwoku has been a big disappointment for Cleveland
* Mayfield is a 4rth or 5th tier starting qb
Great oline/very good pair of rbs, a lot of inconsistency beyond that.
They are a good/very good team, they might even go to the Super Bowl: they will need a ton of breaks for that to happen.
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Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post
I think people are way overestimating the amount of talent on the Browns:
* OBJ is not close to the player he once was - plus he's a headache
* Landry is out
* Donavon Peoples Jones is a 6th round pick that has not produced yet
* Austin Hooper's best days are behind him
* Daniel Nwoku has been a big disappointment for Cleveland
* Mayfield is a 4rth or 5th tier starting qb
Great oline/very good pair of rbs, a lot of inconsistency beyond that.
They are a good/very good team, they might even go to the Super Bowl: they will need a ton of breaks for that to happen.“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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