Coach Staley Discussion - Fired

[Eurobolt]

This guy wanders far afield from the subject matter at times, but he drives home the point: Why pay Justin Herbert all that money then go cheap on the head coach?

Answers below:

Coaches, executives, and other staff members do not count against the NFL salary cap. While head coaches like Bill Belichick and Sean Payton reportedly earn $20 million or more per year, that money is not factored into the salary cap equation


While the NFL has a salary cap, it also has a salary floor, so teams cannot hold onto money in perpetuity. Teams must spend at least 89% of the cap over a four-year period, while the NFL as a whole must spend at least 95% of the cap.

[Fouts2herbert]

Now the next question is. If Staley were to be out and Moore in as HC. Do you let Ansley take over as DC or bring in a vet who has had success and simplify the D like a Mike Zimmer?

That would be entirely up to Moore...it would be his hire...

[Fouts2herbert]

Of course they would keep Moore - he is cheap

They would probably keep Telesco too

I called this scenario when they hired Moore, cheap, hungry, wants to work with herbert, and will be okay letting charger ownership call the shots, he's perfect, LOL!

[Fouts2herbert]

Staley said JCJ was “not very good” on Sunday. He went on to say that nobody in the secondary had a good game. True. When one or two guys play poorly you can look at the players but when everybody plays poorly you have to look at the coach. Year 3 of Staley’s tenure and the defense is getting worse not better.

Staley had me fooled when they hired him, great story, articulate, professional, squeaky clean, etc...I mean what's not to like? But despite how much belief he has in himself, he is not a leader of men, that much is perfectly clear to me and I've been out on him since halfway through his first year, I do like some of the team building and the positive influence he's had on the draft, but he'd be a better GM in my opinion...

[Caslon]

I didn’t listen all the way thru on that podcast, sorry. Was being cheap a factor in hiring Staley? Was it first on their minds? How much net worth do they have if you deduct the dollar value of their franchise? How does Staley rank in salary compared to other HC’s ?

[SuperCharged]

All I know is that Staleys seat is smouldering right now. He better do something. Especially with his swiss cheese defense.

I hope he can get this defense turned around quick if not this season will be in flames just like his seat.

[Bolt4Knob]

Staley had me fooled when they hired him, great story, articulate, professional, squeaky clean, etc...I mean what's not to like? But despite how much belief he has in himself, he is not a leader of men, that much is perfectly clear to me and I've been out on him since halfway through his first year, I do like some of the team building and the positive influence he's had on the draft, but he'd be a better GM in my opinion...

I was on the Daboll wagon
when i first heard the news, I didn't like the hire
I drank the kool-aid
I thought from y1 to yr 2 he would improve as a coach

he is a lot of talk
the defense has gotten worse under him - even with the same talent - they should get better

[ghost]

How can Jets HC Robert Saleh turnaround the Jets defense in one year - #2 ranked defense in the NFL - and Staley has set NFL records with his defense for collapses and all-time offensive yardage in year 2 + 3?

[Fouts2herbert]

I was on the Daboll wagon
when i first heard the news, I didn't like the hire
I drank the kool-aid
I thought from y1 to yr 2 he would improve as a coach

he is a lot of talk
the defense has gotten worse under him - even with the same talent - they should get better

that's an understatement, his defenses have been historically bad...and for Pete's sake! he's considered a defensive genius, wow!

[AFboltfan]

Answers below:

Coaches, executives, and other staff members do not count against the NFL salary cap. While head coaches like Bill Belichick and Sean Payton reportedly earn $20 million or more per year, that money is not factored into the salary cap equation


While the NFL has a salary cap, it also has a salary floor, so teams cannot hold onto money in perpetuity. Teams must spend at least 89% of the cap over a four-year period, while the NFL as a whole must spend at least 95% of the cap.

I've been saying this for years... But the problem is now its in fashion to "discover" the young hot shot HC which started with McVay... The Chargers stumbled onto the trend but have not mastered it after 2 other failed attempts after Norv.

Spanos is just cheap... This current HC trend will not change that.

[Fouts2herbert]

How can Jets HC Robert Saleh turnaround the Jets defense in one year - #2 ranked defense in the NFL - and Staley has set NFL records with his defense for collapses and all-time offensive yardage in year 2 + 3?

Saleh would've been a great hire, he was the coach I wanted over Daboll, I didn't even have Staley on my radar...Herbert with Saleh's defense would have these charger contending for real...another reason why not grabbing Saleh was a major fuck up was Saleh's connections to the shanahan offensive coaching tree, they really fucked up when they didn't sign Saley...I was wrong about Daboll he turned out to he a good coach too, but damn...Saleh was tailor made for this team, he was exactly what they needed...

this is why it doesn't really matter if the chargers have a franchise QB or not, these owners can't get out of their own way...it's hopeless as long as these people own the team...

[Bolt4Knob]

Saleh would've been a great hire, he was the coach I wanted over Daboll, I didn't even have Staley on my radar...Herbert with Saleh's defense would have these charger contending for real...another reason why not grabbing Saleh was a major fuck up was Saleh's connections to the shanahan offensive coaching tree, they really fucked up when they didn't sign Saley...I was wrong about Daboll he turned out to he a good coach too, but damn...Saleh was tailor made for this team, he was exactly what they needed...

this is why it doesn't really matter if the chargers have a franchise QB or not, these owners can't get out of their own way...it's hopeless as long as these people own the team...

I on the other hand missed on Saleh but Daboll - had a good feeling

as for Staley - I just htink his inexperience and not going through some up and downs - has been to his detriment.

as for the Spanii - I truly think they don't care about winning.... its not a big deal to them
The new Suns owner is so different from the old Suns owner - guy is spending the cash - he wants to win. Its been a breathe of fresh air