Coach Staley Discussion - Fired

[Lefty2SLO]

I agree with Lefty. We have enough good players to be a very good defense but we aren't - it's got to be the coaching.

Along those lines, I've noticed that many years KC starts the season with a leaky defense and they keep getting better as the year goes on. They have a very good DC - and that's what we need. Our players can do the job with the right coaching/scheme. Here's hoping the new DC is the man for the job.

It does seem like KC starts out their seasons a bit ragged on defense - their offense tends to carry them through these lulls. Their defense does get better as the season wears on. I'd like to be able to do the same . . . . .

[rensoul]

That's a nice story. Mack is still a quality edge not top 10 last year. KVN utility LB ,Fox 2nd string 3T.
Bosa in 1st game after projected "season ending" injury was a liability. The Fab Four had some pressure in 1st half. Age, injury and stupidity(Bosa) erased them in 2nd half. Who blew up plays consistently like Chris?

Ok, so instead of actually examining the coaching you are going to downgrade the personnel again. So Mack/Bosa/Van Noy/Fox isn't good enough the team also needs an all pro DT to succeed or at least have a top 20 defense? Hahahaha.

The better question is who else does KC have on the defensive line besides Chris Jones? A rookie in Karlaftis, some other mid DT's, a close to mid 30's Carlos Dunlap and a rotational former 5th round pick in Mike Danna. Somehow they managed to get 55 sacks out of their team in 2022. That is 15 more than the Chargers defense had.

Instead of degrading the personnel it might be a bright idea to examine the coaching differences. Spags disguises coverages and also is known to play a lot of press man and blitzes regularly. It is an aggressive scheme, an aggressive scheme helps cover up deficiencies in the personnel. And he actually knows how to make half time adjustments.

[DennisR91]

It does seem like KC starts out their seasons a bit ragged on defense - their offense tends to carry them through these lulls. Their defense does get better as the season wears on. I'd like to be able to do the same . . . . .

that’s by design

they do the same thing on the level of gameplanning. By third and fourth quarter the game plan is effective and only minor adjustments need to be made. They design it that way.
someone needs to hire spagnuolo away from them also. Don’t know why none broadcasters have announced spagnolo as the best available dc

[powderblueboy]

That's a nice story. Mack is still a quality edge not top 10 last year. KVN utility LB ,Fox 2nd string 3T.
Bosa in 1st game after projected "season ending" injury was a liability. The Fab Four had some pressure in 1st half. Age, injury and stupidity(Bosa) erased them in 2nd half. Who blew up plays consistently like Chris?

On what do you base this? If you are referring to numbers, why not then elevate Fox to level 1 or 2 status as pass rushing 3T instead of a 2nd string banana.
And Kyle Van Noy was really coming on those last 8 games providing pressure ...... his first 8 -9 games you can pretty much ignore.

Are you John Spanos commencing your offseason contract negotiating stance? Is that why you are giving them all a thumbs down?

How often did you see Derwin blitz (who is pretty good at it btw) in the 2nd half?

There is a reason why they suddenly didn't get pressure in the 2nd half:
It was Staley's patented deer in the head lights 2nd half can't make adjustments at this time moment.

[Lefty2SLO]

That's a nice story. Mack is still a quality edge not top 10 last year. KVN utility LB ,Fox 2nd string 3T.
Bosa in 1st game after projected "season ending" injury was a liability. The Fab Four had some pressure in 1st half. Age, injury and stupidity(Bosa) erased them in 2nd half. Who blew up plays consistently like Chris?

If Bosa was such a liability why was he playing? Is Bosa on one leg more effective than a healthy Rumph? It's really not rocket science.

[powderblueboy]

Actually, I thought they didn't get pressure that 2nd half
because Staley opted for the linemen to push in the pocket instead of trying to get penetration.
It was a conservative approach (Staley's hallmark, aside from the ill advised 4rth down gambles)
to trying to milk a big lead that only served to get the Jacksonville offense going.

[powderblueboy]

It does seem like KC starts out their seasons a bit ragged on defense - their offense tends to carry them through these lulls. Their defense does get better as the season wears on. I'd like to be able to do the same . . . . .

That has been traditionally true with Spagnoula's defenses.

[sonorajim]

If Bosa was such a liability why was he playing? Is Bosa on one leg more effective than a healthy Rumph?It's really not rocket science.

Rumph was struggling with an MCL Was he active for that game?.

[Lefty2SLO]

Rumph was struggling with an MCL Was he active for that game?.

I thought he was healthy for that game . . . .could be wrong though.

[jamrock]

I agree with Lefty. We have enough good players to be a very good defense but we aren't - it's got to be the coaching.

Along those lines, I've noticed that many years KC starts the season with a leaky defense and they keep getting better as the year goes on. They have a very good DC - and that's what we need. Our players can do the job with the right coaching/scheme. Here's hoping the new DC is the man for the job.

What difference is the new DC going to make if Staley is still calling the D?

[chargeroo]

What difference is the new DC going to make if Staley is still calling the D?

I even wonder why he wanted a DC? If he's calling the defense, what does his DC do?

[sonorajim]

I even wonder why he wanted a DC? If he's calling the defense, what does his DC do?

That question comes up a lot. It's obvious that I don't know what Ansley will do for HC Staley.
My guess:
1. Whatever he's told.
2. Play calling in a framework designed primarily by Staley and per game by both.

Realistically, we have to wait & see. Right now it's just talk & rumor.