Black Monday - HC Anthony Lynn Fired - Detroits New OC

[Bolt4Knob]

Think what is important for GM is to hit on the majority of 1st Rd pick. Doesn't have to be a superstar, but at the very least a very good starter worthy of a second contract. And also do the same for at least half of the 2nd rd pick. Get a solid starter worthy of 2nd contract. 3rd rd and beyond hopefully you find a one worth a second contract

Telesco issue is in 8 seasons. For his 1st and 2nd rd picks, so far only Bosa has got that 2nd contract.

Fluker, Teo Verrett, Attaochu
Gordon, Perryman
Bosa, Henry
Williams, Lamp
James, Nwosu
Tillery, Adderley
Herbert, Murray

So far only Bosa got that 2nd contract.
Perryman has sort of but not the commitment of we hit on this guy and are keeping him under contract with a 4 year deal.
Henry was franchise so they either haven't decided on him or gave him an offer he said no to. Williams was optioned, we shall see if he gets that second contract. Lamp if not re-signed would be another miss.

Derwin will get a second contract. Herbert will.

So Telesco only really hit extra bases with 3 for 16 for sure. And maybe a single with Perryman. It possible that could be 6 extra base hits of the 16 depending on some recent players developing and decisions on 2nd contract.

But 3 for 16 is a .187 batting avg on those swings. Hast not really been knocking it out of the park on his swings. But that could improve to quite a bit depending on what happens with a few players like Williams, Henry, Lamp, Adderley, Murray, Nwosu. If r of those 6 hit for 2nd contracts, all of a sudden he is 7/16 .437 and in AJ ballpark of success. But as of right now not nearly good enough.


AJ 11 for 23 in my book. .478 avg.
Ingram hit, Reyes miss
Luiget hit
Gilchrist and Mouton swing and miss.
Mathews swing and miss didn't have a 2nd rd
English swing and miss didn't have a 2nd rd
Davis miss. Weddle hit.
Cromartie a hit, but they traded him, I would have resigned him. Lockdown corners with great ball skills are not easy to find. McNeill-LT hit. But injury. Good swings this draft.
Merriman, Castillo and Jackson 3 hits.
Rivers homerun. Olshansky bunt.
Davis miss, Florence hit, Kiel miss
Jammer hit, Fonoti miss, Caldwell miss

I agree that first and second are important but 3rd and 4th rounders should be cheap contributors who grow into their roles and you hope get a second contract
Telesco has traded away many fourth rounders
traded a 3rd for Murray
and has whiffed on many of his third and fourth round picks when he had them: Chris Watt, Matt Tuerk (RIP), Craig Mager (reach), Josh Perry, Trey Pipkins

And if you miss on those 3-5 picks - you most likely have to pay veterans to make up for it which wreck your cap


Hence - as much as I think Lynn needs to be replaced - the same for Telesco (if not more)

[Boltjolt]

Think what is important for GM is to hit on the majority of 1st Rd pick. Doesn't have to be a superstar, but at the very least a very good starter worthy of a second contract. And also do the same for at least half of the 2nd rd pick. Get a solid starter worthy of 2nd contract. 3rd rd and beyond hopefully you find a one worth a second contract

Telesco issue is in 8 seasons. For his 1st and 2nd rd picks, so far only Bosa has got that 2nd contract.

Fluker, Teo Verrett, Attaochu
Gordon, Perryman
Bosa, Henry
Williams, Lamp
James, Nwosu
Tillery, Adderley
Herbert, Murray

So far only Bosa got that 2nd contract.
Perryman has sort of but not the commitment of we hit on this guy and are keeping him under contract with a 4 year deal.
Henry was franchise so they either haven't decided on him or gave him an offer he said no to. Williams was optioned, we shall see if he gets that second contract. Lamp if not re-signed would be another miss.

Derwin will get a second contract. Herbert will.

So Telesco only really hit extra bases with 3 for 16 for sure. And maybe a single with Perryman. It possible that could be 6 extra base hits of the 16 depending on some recent players developing and decisions on 2nd contract.

But 3 for 16 is a .187 batting avg on those swings. Hast not really been knocking it out of the park on his swings. But that could improve to quite a bit depending on what happens with a few players like Williams, Henry, Lamp, Adderley, Murray, Nwosu. If r of those 6 hit for 2nd contracts, all of a sudden he is 7/16 .437 and in AJ ballpark of success. But as of right now not nearly good enough.


AJ 11 for 23 in my book. .478 avg.
Ingram hit, Reyes miss
Luiget hit
Gilchrist and Mouton swing and miss.
Mathews swing and miss didn't have a 2nd rd
English swing and miss didn't have a 2nd rd
Davis miss. Weddle hit.
Cromartie a hit, but they traded him, I would have resigned him. Lockdown corners with great ball skills are not easy to find. McNeill-LT hit. But injury. Good swings this draft.
Merriman, Castillo and Jackson 3 hits.
Rivers homerun. Olshansky bunt.
Davis miss, Florence hit, Kiel miss
Jammer hit, Fonoti miss, Caldwell miss

If you are going to give McNeill a hit and say but injured then Perryman should get that too. He got a two year deal because of injuries and it's why we didn't offer Verrett a contract.
An extra base hit counts the same as a single in baseball lol.

And Butler drafted Caldwell.

Fluker is still starting, we just weren't smart enough to move him to OG.
But I guess when they don't live up to their draft status, it's time to go as they Probably want to try the market instead of accept a smaller deal.

[Critty]

If you are going to give McNeill a hit and say but injured then Perryman should get that too. He got a two year deal because of injuries and it's why we didn't offer Verrett a contract.
An extra base hit counts the same as a single in baseball lol.

And Butler drafted Caldwell.

Fluker is still starting, we just weren't smart enough to move him to OG.
But I guess when they don't live up to their draft status, it's time to go as they Probably want to try the market instead of accept a smaller deal.

Good points.
But that still has Telesco on the hot seat not hitting enough yet.

[Bolt4Knob]

Good points.
But that still has Telesco on the hot seat not hitting enough yet.

Telesco should need some a big old bottle aloe lotion for his backside as far as I am concerned.

He has has many years to fix the OL - and he has tried - but he has really not succeeded. And why would that give me any hope he can fix it this offseason.

[Topcat]

If you are going to give McNeill a hit and say but injured then Perryman should get that too. He got a two year deal because of injuries and it's why we didn't offer Verrett a contract.
An extra base hit counts the same as a single in baseball lol.

And Butler drafted Caldwell.

Fluker is still starting, we just weren't smart enough to move him to OG.
But I guess when they don't live up to their draft status, it's time to go as they Probably want to try the market instead of accept a smaller deal.

Actually, the Bolts DID kick Fluke inside to G his last two years...which left a huge vacancy at RT which was filled by...Barks...

[Xenos]

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To update the above graphic, since Week Two.

The Chiefs are now 41-3

The Chargers are 13-29


One week from today, is Black Monday. I do not expect the Chargers to be among the organizations making changes.


My optimism for this team doing the right thing is pitch-black.





Share your optimism or commiserate below.

Herbert just delivered the kiss of death to our dreams of getting Lynn fired after the KC game.

[Bolt4Knob]

Herbert just delivered the kiss of death to our dreams of getting Lynn fired after the KC game.

What else is he going to say - Lynn stinks!

I truly think the decision has been made already. This Sunday doesn't mean anything.

If the Spanos keep Lynn it will be because of the "narrative" and "intangibles" plus its easy

If they fire him - they might show they want to win football games.

Its that easy to me

[Xenos]

What else is he going to say - Lynn stinks!

I truly think the decision has been made already. This Sunday doesn't mean anything.

If the Spanos keep Lynn it will be because of the "narrative" and "intangibles" plus its easy

If they fire him - they might show they want to win football games.

Its that easy to me

What else can Herbert say? Absolutely nothing or something else if it’s not true. The problem is that the team and players like Lynn too much despite his many shortcomings. We bag his loyalty to the players but I think it works the other way also. He has control of the locker room currently unlike a Matt Patricia or Adam Gase.

[Topcat]

Herbert just delivered the kiss of death to our dreams of getting Lynn fired after the KC game.

The ultimate irony: Lynn doggedly insists on a turtle mode ground game until the 4th quarter, then reluctantly allows Herbie to finally pass the rock, which ends up winning a few games we would have otherwise lost...and ends up saving Lynn from the chopping block...talk about Ungrateful Lynn biting the Herbie Hand that feeds him...

[PR#1]

Herbert just delivered the kiss of death to our dreams of getting Lynn fired after the KC game.

What could Lynn add to the qb meetings ?

How to properly grip the ball for a handoff ?

[powderblueboy]

Think what is important for GM is to hit on the majority of 1st Rd pick. Doesn't have to be a superstar, but at the very least a very good starter worthy of a second contract. And also do the same for at least half of the 2nd rd pick. Get a solid starter worthy of 2nd contract. 3rd rd and beyond hopefully you find a one worth a second contract

Telesco issue is in 8 seasons. For his 1st and 2nd rd picks, so far only Bosa has got that 2nd contract.

Fluker, Teo Verrett, Attaochu
Gordon, Perryman
Bosa, Henry
Williams, Lamp
James, Nwosu
Tillery, Adderley
Herbert, Murray

So far only Bosa got that 2nd contract.
Perryman has sort of but not the commitment of we hit on this guy and are keeping him under contract with a 4 year deal.
Henry was franchise so they either haven't decided on him or gave him an offer he said no to. Williams was optioned, we shall see if he gets that second contract. Lamp if not re-signed would be another miss.

Derwin will get a second contract. Herbert will.

So Telesco only really hit extra bases with 3 for 16 for sure. And maybe a single with Perryman. It possible that could be 6 extra base hits of the 16 depending on some recent players developing and decisions on 2nd contract.

But 3 for 16 is a .187 batting avg on those swings. Hast not really been knocking it out of the park on his swings. But that could improve to quite a bit depending on what happens with a few players like Williams, Henry, Lamp, Adderley, Murray, Nwosu. If r of those 6 hit for 2nd contracts, all of a sudden he is 7/16 .437 and in AJ ballpark of success. But as of right now not nearly good enough.


AJ 11 for 23 in my book. .478 avg.
Ingram hit, Reyes miss
Luiget hit
Gilchrist and Mouton swing and miss.
Mathews swing and miss didn't have a 2nd rd
English swing and miss didn't have a 2nd rd
Davis miss. Weddle hit.
Cromartie a hit, but they traded him, I would have resigned him. Lockdown corners with great ball skills are not easy to find. McNeill-LT hit. But injury. Good swings this draft.
Merriman, Castillo and Jackson 3 hits.
Rivers homerun. Olshansky bunt.
Davis miss, Florence hit, Kiel miss
Jammer hit, Fonoti miss, Caldwell miss

Liuget was not a hit, given that they passed on the two Camerons; many here wanted Cameron Jordan & were happy when he fell to us.

Mathews was the best running back in that draft: a useful player when healthy who helped get us to the 2013 playoffs - once at 12, they did pass up on some great players to get him.

Verrett about to get a big 2nd contract with the 49ers; Gordan got a big 2nd contract with Denver.

With Ingram, they passed up on Chandler Jones, who a few had us take in the mocks.

Would you call Luis Vasquez a miss since his 2nd big contact was with Denver?

Under Telesco:

Fluker: C - week draft & he is still around
Verrett: C - Roby/Dennard? Verrett better right now
Gordan: B - all pro who was very productive: team couldn't afford his next contract (might have taken Armstead with that pick)
Bosa: B - great player, more than a few pro bowlers went in the following picks who would have also worked
Williams: C - good player: they passed on a few better players at PON, hence the C
James: B - who didn't want him? injury history taking the shine off this pick
Tillery: D minus - mistake
Herbert: A+ - not a slam dunk choice, could have gone in another direction
Murray: tbd - he plays, which is a good thing


Teo: D
Attaochu C minus - still plays
Perryman: B
Henry: B plus - passed on Chris Jones who some wanted here
Adderly: D/tbd


TT grade: B-/C+
Only solid Ds go to Golden Domers: TT take note.

[powderblueboy]

What could Lynn add to the qb meetings ?

How to properly grip the ball for a handoff ?

I can't think of a good reason why his input would be productive unless he is the defacto offensive coordinator.
In effect, he's telling them how he wants them to play the position....don't turn the ball over and then what? .
Not the ideal person you want doing that, but Herbert hasn't been the worse for it.
No reason to not suspect he's also doing that with the offensive linemen.