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  • richpjr
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    Originally posted by X-man View Post
    Possible future Charger deep threat?

    Dolphins general manager Dennis Hickey didn't give Mike Wallace a ringing endorsement when he was asked about his future. Could the wide receiver be on his way out of Miami?


    After fixing the lines...Telesco could really make Phillip happy with this guy.
    I couldn't fathom TT being interested in a bad character guy like that.

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    • Panamamike
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      Originally posted by X-man View Post
      Possible future Charger deep threat?

      Dolphins general manager Dennis Hickey didn't give Mike Wallace a ringing endorsement when he was asked about his future. Could the wide receiver be on his way out of Miami?



      After fixing the lines...Telesco could really make Phillip happy with this guy.


      a one trick pony with a shitty attitude.....JC I hope not!

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      • QSmokey
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        Originally posted by richpjr View Post
        I couldn't fathom TT being interested in a bad character guy like that.
        Originally posted by Panamamike View Post
        a one trick pony with a shitty attitude.....JC I hope not!
        Yup and yup. So no thanks.

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        • CTrout
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          A deep threat that had 800+ yards and 10 tds on a team with an average QB....yeah, who could use a guy like that?

          As productive as our passing game was at times, we'd clearly have no use for such a player.

          That "one trick pony" had more yrds then Allen and Floyd. And as many tds as those 2 combined.
          Last edited by CTrout; 01-22-2015, 09:18 AM.

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          • richpjr
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            Originally posted by CTrout View Post
            A deep threat that had 800+ yards and 10 tds on a team with an average QB....yeah, who could use a guy like that?

            As productive as our passing game was at times, we'd clearly have no use for such a player.
            I don't think anyone who follows the team would argue that they don't need some explosive play making out of the receiving corp. Just not that guy.

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            • CTrout
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              Originally posted by richpjr View Post
              I don't think anyone who follows the team would argue that they don't need some explosive play making out of the receiving corp. Just not that guy.
              Perhaps but one incident in a 6 year career doesn't make him some franchise killer.

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              • madcaplaughs
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                If we signed Suh, every person on the entire defense would be better. Suh and resigning Liuget/Flowers would be a major coup for us. With everyone healthy (including Verrett), we'd be a dominating defense. Every other team has marquise expensive players. I think we should be able to find a way to do it. I think Suh would also probably like the idea of playing 3/4 defensive end. Kind of like how Peppers was interested in playing 3/4 linebacker for Green bay after having been a 4/3 end for most of his career. I know Suh can be a nut on the field at times, but heck, I kind of like that edge. He just has to not stomp people as much .

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                • Steve
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                  The difference between Suh and peppers is that peppers is taking less money to play in GB (than in Chicago) and Suh has been very public about going to the highest bidder, which means a difference of about $15 mill a season. Peppers is getting a lot of money, but at about $8 mill per season, he is really not overpaid by outside pass rusher standards. Suh is going to be looking for a contract that pays him $22 or $23 mill per season, which is QB money. And no matter how good you think Suh is, you still have to have some depth at DL, because even the guys getting that much money can only be effective so many plays per game. You don't want the pass rush dying in the 4th quarter like it did vs Dallas, because the DL are all tired.

                  Plus, if we sign Suh, that is pretty much it as far as FA. No resigning our own guys or any other guys to fill other needs, unless we put it on the NFL credit card like Denver does. Denver constantly signs older players to big money deals, with lower salaries, then gives a big bonus up front. So, if they play through the contract OK, but in the end what has happened in the past is those teams end up cutting those players before the end of the deal, once they start to underperform a bit, to free up more cap space for better players, but have to take the bigger hit due to the accelerated bonus.

                  Again, I will do it again, besides JJ Watt, who is pretty much unique, name another dominant 34 DL? Maybe Reggie White, but again, he was a hall of fame type of player, and he was pretty unique, and his production took a big hit in GB too. Bruce Smith was a edge rusher, and was used like a 43 DE for his career. Go ahead and look back to the late 1970's, 1980's (there aren't any in the 1990's, because everyone switched to the 43), and then in the revival in of the 34 in the 2000's. And all of those guys (White, Watt, and Bruce Smith) had great supporting casts to help them use the D more successfully. Suh is going to have to be the show as far as our DL goes.

                  There is the occasional player who goes on and is somewhat successful for a year or two here or there in the 34, but we are going to have to give a long term, huge signing bonus to the guy. This is not 1 or 2 years of production. Long story short, if you want to have a guy who puts up stats on the DL, you HAVE to play a 43. Peppers is playing OLB in the 34 or 43 RDE, which is totally different from Suh. SUh is NEVER going to line up and speed rush around players, so the difference in the scheme does matter. With Suh, you either have to switch to the 43, or don't go after him.

                  That is a ton of money to make us good at one spot to ask the guy to primarily occupy blockers to let the LB make plays. In a 43, where you deliberately align the DL to avoid the double teams and let the DL make the plays, it is fine to pay one guy so much. But you align guys like that in the 34, some ILB is going to get buried as the other team free releases a couple of OL and double team him back into the endzone. Plus, if you look at Det D play during Suh career, this is the only season they really haven't been overachievers. Too many games where they give up a lot of big plays late, or they make the mistakes. Not all of that is on Suh, but for $20+ mill per season, I would want a little more vet leadership and a lot less underachieving.

                  As far as the "edge" goes, after the stepping on Aaron Rodgers goes, if he does something stupid like that again, he is going to get suspended. I would also be worried some OL for another team is going to probably cripple the guy, as well they should. There is a strong argument to be made that GB would be going to the SB right now if Suh wasn't such a big fucking loser. Fat Teddy may be blind, but everyone else on earth known what a cowardly loser the guy is. It also shows how stupid he is, since he has a history of this crap.
                  Last edited by Steve; 01-23-2015, 08:46 AM.

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                  • richpjr
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                    Originally posted by CTrout View Post
                    Perhaps but one incident in a 6 year career doesn't make him some franchise killer.
                    If it was just one incident, he never would have been let go by the Steelers (Tomlin openly talked about benching him because of his attitude and eventually took playing time away from him) and the Dolphins would not consider cutting him.

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                    • CTrout
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                      Originally posted by richpjr View Post
                      If it was just one incident, he never would have been let go by the Steelers (Tomlin openly talked about benching him because of his attitude and eventually took playing time away from him) and the Dolphins would not consider cutting him.
                      Hmm..well I dont recall any of that going on in Pitts. and if it did it couldn't of been to serious, because they
                      made him a nice offer to stay.

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                      • Antonio's Gates
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                        Hell no on Mike Wallace. You can get a one trick pony like him on the third day of the draft without the drama.

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                        • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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                          NFL issues statement on Deflategate investigation

                          Posted by Michael David Smith on January 23, 2015, 1:46 PM EST

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                          The NFL issued the following statement on Friday afternoon in response to inquiries about “Deflategate”:

                          “Our office has been conducting an investigation as to whether the footballs used in last Sunday’s AFC Championship Game complied with the specifications that are set forth in the playing rules. The investigation began based on information that suggested that the game balls used by the New England Patriots were not properly inflated to levels required by the playing rules, specifically Playing Rule 2, Section 1, which requires that the ball be inflated to between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch. Prior to the game, the game officials inspect the footballs to be used by each team and confirm that this standard is satisfied, which was done before last Sunday’s game.

                          “The investigation is being led jointly by NFL Executive Vice President Jeff Pash and Ted Wells of the law firm of Paul Weiss. Mr. Wells and his firm bring additional expertise and a valuable independent perspective. The investigation began promptly on Sunday night. Over the past several days, nearly 40 interviews have been conducted, including of Patriots personnel, game officials, and third parties with relevant information and expertise. We have obtained and are continuing to obtain additional information, including video and other electronic information and physical evidence. We have retained Renaissance Associates, an investigatory firm with sophisticated forensic expertise to assist in reviewing electronic and video information.

                          “The playing rules are intended to protect the fairness and integrity of our games. We take seriously claims that those rules have been violated and will fully investigate this matter without compromise or delay. The investigation is ongoing, will be thorough and objective, and is being pursued expeditiously. In the coming days, we expect to conduct numerous additional interviews, examine video and other forensic evidence, as well as relevant physical evidence. While the evidence thus far supports the conclusion that footballs that were under-inflated were used by the Patriots in the first half, the footballs were properly inflated for the second half and confirmed at the conclusion of the game to have remained properly inflated. The goals of the investigation will be to determine the explanation for why footballs used in the game were not in compliance with the playing rules and specifically whether any noncompliance was the result of deliberate action. We have not made any judgments on these points and will not do so until we have concluded our investigation and considered all of the relevant evidence.

                          “Upon being advised of the investigation, the Patriots promptly pledged their full cooperation and have made their personnel and other information available to us upon request. Our investigation will seek information from any and all relevant sources and we expect full cooperation from other clubs as well. As we develop more information and are in a position to reach conclusions, we will share them publicly.”

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