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  • Chargers8491
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    • Apr 2022
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    Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

    am off the Warren bandwagon, as going TE round one just messes up my board/draft strategy.... am pretty clear on things, as for myself the Warren/Loveland round one love, is a repeat of the Nabers/Odunze love last year.... still not havin' it.... still want beef for the middle of the line, and less sure 'bout an edge rusher, but if there is the talent into the second that I think there is gonna be, gotta believe that would be the best value/bang for the buck day two ??

    will also add that am comfortable w/Dissly as our TE1 in this offense, and would just look to add a pass catching TE as our TE2, albeit am sure Big Jim wants even his flex TE to be a blocker of immanence.

    and re: IOL, that's who I'm looking for round three.... 'specially/specifically if Donovan Jackson or Savaiinaea is still on board.
    The Chargers are going to have to find weapons for this offense or it's going to be much the same next year. The Chargers have 0 playmakers on the offense right now. Outside Higgins the WR FA group is not that great and neither is the TE or RB group.

    I would do whatever I could to sign Trey Smith and go WR, TE, and RB in the 1st 3 rnds in any order. Harbaugh (Former QB) knows Herbert needs playmakers to make the offense go. They did a good job loading up the D last year this year they need to load up the offense.
    MOCK 2025:
    1. Grant DT, Michigan..................... 6. Marcus Harris CB, Cal
    2. Jack Sawyer Edge, Ohio St........ 6. Moliki Matavao TE, UCLA
    3. Devin Neil RB, Kansas................ 6. Caleb Etienne OT/OG, BYU
    4. JJ Pegues DT/DE, Ole Miss........ 6. Jacob Baylor OC, Arkansas State
    5. Don'te Thornton WR, Ten.............7. Lan Larison RB, UC Davis

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    • electricgold
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      • Apr 2020
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      21. Tyler Warren
      TE - Penn State

      52. Tate Ratledge
      OG - Georgia

      88. Ashton Gillote
      EDGE - Louisville

      124. Cam Skattebo
      RB - Arizona State

      158. Jimmy Horn Jr.
      WR - Colorado
      Last edited by electricgold; 12-10-2024, 08:52 AM.

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      • beachcomber
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        Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post

        The Chargers are going to have to find weapons for this offense or it's going to be much the same next year. The Chargers have 0 playmakers on the offense right now. Outside Higgins the WR FA group is not that great and neither is the TE or RB group.

        I would do whatever I could to sign Trey Smith and go WR, TE, and RB in the 1st 3 rnds in any order. Harbaugh (Former QB) knows Herbert needs playmakers to make the offense go. They did a good job loading up the D last year this year they need to load up the offense.
        took the cheez early w/signing Trey Smith, and Higgins would be nice as well, and.... don't think it wise to spend the $twentysomething mil on the either of 'em, as yes we need reinforcements on the offensive side of things, albeit eye don't want to take away from our League leading defense just to satisfy the draft hounds lobbying for "weapons"

        linemen and defense first.... we coulda, woulda, shoulda had guys like George Pickens, Kincaid and others, and.... based on Joe's swooping in to pick off the young Ladd, am guessing he is capable of doing just the such again, and will be eagerly awaiting his next go 'round in the offseason....
        OG Donovan Jackson, OC Jared, ED Sai’vion Jones, RB Martinez,​​ TE Oronde, NT Nazir, RB Raheim/Kalel, LB Cody Simon/Teddye, OC Eli Cox
        WR Keenan

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        • Boltjolt
          Dont let the PBs fool ya
          • Jun 2013
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          Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

          I would counter that Palmer is no Tee Higgins. Higgins man-handles DBs and wins contests. Higgins gets more open more often, I don’t care what the radar gun said. At 25M i probably pass too, but I’d cash in Joey for Higgins straight up without blinking and refill the edge group differently. there is a visible gap in capability between Tee and Josh. Its just easy to see.
          Id agree. I wasn't comparing them as recievers, just the common speed narrative.
          I'm not one to focus solely on a 40 time.

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          1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
          2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
          3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina
          4. CJ West DT Indiana
          5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
          6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
          6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
          6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
          6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
          7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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          • Boltjolt
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            • Jun 2013
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            Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

            am not advocating the such, and.... wouldn't be surprised if there is indeed a round one worthy OG, and.... if I didn't know any better there is a round one worthy OC slotted for the '026 draft ??

            and Dissly might not be a TE1, albeit in this offense not sure he is not well suited for the such.... if he keeps up his receptions production, it is without a doubt that Harbaugh wants a big bodied blocker in his TE1, and.... Will fits the Bill.

            again for myself, am looking for a TE2 that is our pass catching/receiving flex TE, and.... dude is still gonna have to block.... don't see it any other way in a Harbaugh/GRo scheme.... ??
            I don't NEED a TE in round 1 either as there are others I like,..... but Baltimore TEs Likely (240) and Andrews are 245 Lbs. They aren't big bruisers at blocking but dona decent job and neither was SF TE Vernon Davis at 248 lbs.
            I've no idea what JH thinks of Loveland but guessing he recruited him.

            So again, for me it's all about what we do in FAcy first. Not thinking TE is a target though and certainly hope we don't bring back Hurst....who isnt a world blocker either at 245 lbs. TE 1 is your inline more athletic TE.


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            1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
            2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
            3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina
            4. CJ West DT Indiana
            5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
            6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
            6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
            6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
            6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
            7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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            • dmac_bolt
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              • May 2019
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              Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

              well said

              I would be pleased with Warren or Loveland but open to other picks...edge, DT, WR...but I dont see any IOL in the first round
              A reason that Warren is a good R1 pick for LAC is that he’s a very good receiving TE AND he is a very good blocking TE. He’s complete, fills their TE Blocker model and still brings a legit receiver threat. He’s an every down in all of their formations. Loveland also is that same player type.

              I don’t know what the board will look like mid 20s, don’t even know they’ll be there.

              Edit - Fannin in Rd2 would also be good - more dangerous receiving threat and he is a better blocker than recognized. He’s light for jumbo package 4th and 1 formations, he’d need to bulk a little - which is doable. Or they just bring in a 6th OL for those 3 plays every game and have a better receiving TE for the other 60.
              “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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              • CanadianBoltFan
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                Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                A reason that Warren is a good R1 pick for LAC is that he’s a very good receiving TE AND he is a very good blocking TE. He’s complete, fills their TE Blocker model and still brings a legit receiver threat. He’s an every down in all of their formations. Loveland also is that same player type.

                I don’t know what the board will look like mid 20s, don’t even know they’ll be there.

                Edit - Fannin in Rd2 would also be good - more dangerous receiving threat and he is a better blocker than recognized. He’s light for jumbo package 4th and 1 formations, he’d need to bulk a little - which is doable. Or they just bring in a 6th OL for those 3 plays every game and have a better receiving TE for the other 60.
                I wonder if Harbaugh and Roman couild find a place for Brock Bowers on their team. Because he isnt blocking much at all at the NFL level, really a glorified slot receiver, and he was never known as a good blocker.

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                • Jack Burton
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                  Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

                  I wonder if Harbaugh and Roman couild find a place for Brock Bowers on their team. Because he isnt blocking much at all at the NFL level, really a glorified slot receiver, and he was never known as a good blocker.
                  He’s on his way to setting the rookie receptions record.
                  Im sure they’d have found a spot for him….
                  Dissly can block.

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                  • sonorajim
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                    Originally posted by CanadianBoltFan View Post

                    I wonder if Harbaugh and Roman couild find a place for Brock Bowers on their team. Because he isnt blocking much at all at the NFL level, really a glorified slot receiver, and he was never known as a good blocker.
                    Bowers currently is 2nd only to Chase in NFL receptions. We could find a use for him.

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                    • Chargers8491
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                      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                      I don't NEED a TE in round 1 either as there are others I like,..... but Baltimore TEs Likely (240) and Andrews are 245 Lbs. They aren't big bruisers at blocking but dona decent job and neither was SF TE Vernon Davis at 248 lbs.
                      I've no idea what JH thinks of Loveland but guessing he recruited him.

                      So again, for me it's all about what we do in FAcy first. Not thinking TE is a target though and certainly hope we don't bring back Hurst....who isnt a world blocker either at 245 lbs. TE 1 is your inline more athletic TE.


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                      Here are some of the top RB's, WRs, and RB's that will be FAs next year:

                      Running Back:
                      1. Aaron Jones, Minnesota Vikings
                      2. James Conner, Arizona Cardinals
                      3. Najee Harris, Pittsburgh Steelers
                      4. J.K. Dobbins, Los Angeles Chargers
                      5. Javonte Williams, Denver Broncos
                      6. Nick Chubb, Cleveland Browns
                      7. Kareem Hunt, Kansas City Chiefs
                      8. Rico Dowdle, Dallas Cowboys
                      9. Alexander Mattison, Las Vegas Raiders
                      10. Khalil Herbert, Cincinnati Bengals
                      Wide Receiver:
                      1. Tee Higgins, Cincinnati Bengals
                      2. Chris Godwin, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
                      3. Amari Cooper, Buffalo Bills
                      4. Stefon Diggs, Houston Texans
                      5. DeAndre Hopkins, Kansas City Chiefs
                      6. Diontae Johnson, Baltimore Ravens
                      7. Darius Slayton, New York Giants
                      8. Keenan Allen, Chicago Bears
                      9. Demarcus Robinson, Los Angeles Rams
                      10. Joshua Palmer, Los Angeles Chargers
                      Tight end:
                      1. Juwan Johnson, New Orleans Saints
                      2. Mike Gesicki, Cincinnati Bengals
                      3. Tyler Conklin, New York Jets
                      4. Zach Ertz, Washington Commanders
                      5. Mo Alie-Cox, Indianapolis Colts
                      6. Jordan Akins, Cleveland Browns
                      7. Austin Hooper, New England Patriots
                      8. Nick Vannett, Tennessee Titans
                      9. Luke Farrell, Jacksonville Jaguars
                      10. Harrison Bryant, Las Vegas Raiders
                      MOCK 2025:
                      1. Grant DT, Michigan..................... 6. Marcus Harris CB, Cal
                      2. Jack Sawyer Edge, Ohio St........ 6. Moliki Matavao TE, UCLA
                      3. Devin Neil RB, Kansas................ 6. Caleb Etienne OT/OG, BYU
                      4. JJ Pegues DT/DE, Ole Miss........ 6. Jacob Baylor OC, Arkansas State
                      5. Don'te Thornton WR, Ten.............7. Lan Larison RB, UC Davis

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                      • CanadianBoltFan
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                        Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                        Bowers currently is 2nd only to Chase in NFL receptions. We could find a use for him.
                        I am well aware.

                        I was referring to their mandate for blocking above all else...if you dont block you dont play. Wondering if they will ever make an exception for a skill player who is not a good blocker but is a dominating weapon.

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                        • CanadianBoltFan
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                          Seeing these lists isnt very inspiring. Especially if Higgins stays in Cincy.

                          Looks like they might have to go heavy on WR, TE, RB pretty early in draft if we want high potential playmakers. Would rather have a fresh, young stud RB from the draft than those older veterans

                          This tells me they should target IOL in free agency and attack TE, RB, WR in the draft...what I have felt all along

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