2014 Official Draft Thread

[thelightningwill]

I don't expect the draft to go the way we want anyway. Verrett/Moses works for me. I am big on getting improved players on both lines. And a guard/backup OLT is way up on my list.

As a Jew, I can't go against Moses.

[ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR]

I don't expect the draft to go the way we want anyway. Verrett/Moses works for me. I am big on getting improved players on both lines. And a guard/backup OLT is way up on my list.

Yes, so how does Verrett play into that? That's what I'm getting at. If we don't end up addressing our front 7 until round three I'll be pretty disappointed. Not to say we should pass on better talent to take a positional need, but somehow that's got to be addressed or we'll simply watch a replay of last year.

[Formula 21]

Yes, so how does Verrett play into that? That's what I'm getting at. If we don't end up addressing our front 7 until round three I'll be pretty disappointed. Not to say we should pass on better talent to take a positional need, but somehow that's got to be addressed or we'll simply watch a replay of last year.

I'm high on Nix, but not the other available DTs in the first. I don't know if the other DT's can play NT or the 5 tech and I really don't want to spend a high pick on a 5 tech with Luiget/Reyes already there. As for OLB prospects, I have concerns about Ealy being a DE and Ford being too small. So I have concerns that a player that fits our front 7 needs will be there.

So I go BPA,which looks more and more like cb/wr.

If TT goes Ealy or Ford, I'd be happy with that too. He's the one with the eye for talent.

[Fleet]

Do you really think Gilbert will still be there at 25?

I think its possible. After Dennard i have most of the CBs rated as 2nd rounders. Some have climbed a bit on my own personal rankings due to faster than expected timed speed but i only do that knowing 40 times usually increase a players draft stock. I still think most of the CBs in this draft are #2 CBs. But theres a lot of them. I feel the same way about the WRs. I think theres a couple elite #1 guys but maybe 10 guys that will make great #2 WRs.

I dont think this draft is particularly great for elite level talent but its absolutely loaded with guys i would generally consider 2nd/3rd rounders. Its a great draft to have multiple picks in the 2-4 round range.

[ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR]

I'm high on Nix, but not the other available DTs in the first. I don't know if the other DT's can play NT or the 5 tech and I really don't want to spend a high pick on a 5 tech with Luiget/Reyes already there. As for OLB prospects, I have concerns about Ealy being a DE and Ford being too small. So I have concerns that a player that fits our front 7 needs will be there.

So I go BPA,which looks more and more like cb/wr.

I think I'd be OK taking another DE-type. Not 100% sold on Liuget/Reyes. A little competition at that spot might light a fire under them or put one of them into a more appropriate role. But I'm with you...I'm BPA, but if the draft fell like that and we were going to add Moses and weren't going to get a front 7 player until 3rd round at the earliest, I almost have to demand a larger CB.

[ArtistFormerlyKnownAsBKR]

I think its possible. After Dennard i have most of the CBs rated as 2nd rounders. Some have climbed a bit on my own personal rankings due to faster than expected timed speed but i only do that knowing 40 times usually increase a players draft stock. I still think most of the CBs in this draft are #2 CBs. But theres a lot of them. I feel the same way about the WRs. I think theres a couple elite #1 guys but maybe 10 guys that will make great #2 WRs.

I dont think this draft is particularly great for elite level talent but its absolutely loaded with guys i would generally consider 2nd/3rd rounders. Its a great draft to have multiple picks in the 2-4 round range.

I think Dennard is more likely available. You're definitely more knowledgeable on this but seems like the talk at the combine was more on Gilbert having more fluidity and upside. Almost think Dennard (who I loved a lot at MSU) profiles more like a Jammer type.

[Formula 21]

I think I'd be OK taking another DE-type. Not 100% sold on Liuget/Reyes. A little competition at that spot might light a fire under them or put one of them into a more appropriate role. But I'm with you...I'm BPA, but if the draft fell like that and we were going to add Moses and weren't going to get a front 7 player until 3rd round at the earliest, I almost have to demand a larger CB.

Would you take Ealy or Donald as a DE for pass rush downs? Luiget and Reyes over the guards, Ealy (or Donald) and Ingram outside the OTs? With 2 ILBs and 5 DBs (or 1/6). Spend that first on a pass rush specialist?

[Stinky Wizzleteats+]

So say there is not a real drop off in first round tallent untill day two or later, Im pretty sure a few positions like WR, RB, OG, maybe CB have enough tallented player so if your smart you can starters through round three at some positions, but other positions if u need a starter u have to consider the options in round one. Olb, NT, QB, LT. So a plan to get the best value across the draft netting a NT, LT, or OLBr at 25 vs a deeper position.

[SFW]

Wait a minute. Personally, you don't respect me?

If I didn't name the other "few" how do you know you aren't in that group? I respect you and would love to share a beer with you any day of the week.

[Fleet]

I think Dennard is more likely available. You're definitely more knowledgeable on this but seems like the talk at the combine was more on Gilbert having more fluidity and upside. Almost think Dennard (who I loved a lot at MSU) profiles more like a Jammer type.

No doubt many will have the top cbs ranked differently.

I think Dennard is the better all around player. Much better against the run imo. He also dosnt have the grabbing issues that Gilbert has. If you watch him play you cans see he gets away with a lot of holds. I dont think he will get away with it in the pros.

[thelightningwill]

If I didn't name the other "few" how do you know you aren't in that group? I respect you and would love to share a beer with you any day of the week.

You know I was joking (just about nothing I write is serious). Let me know if you ever come to the middle of Zona.
But you won't have to share a beer. I'll buy you one and then drink from my own.

[bonehead]

Do you really think Gilbert will still be there at 25?

After the combine I can't imagine him to be there at #20