And With The 5th Pick Of The NFL Draft Chargers Select....Discussion

[charger1_sj]

We could trade down twice and still get good players at #14-18...keep collecting 2nd rounders...

Not sure I'd go that far. Starting to sound a bit like Belichick. The analysts were proud of him for all that trading down, didn't work out so well.

[charger1_sj]

I was really hoping Penix would have another strong showing in the championship game for that exact reason. Unfortunately he had the exact opposite. Just need to hope he has a really strong combine/workout season. It does seem like every year QB's tend to end up higher on mock drafts in March/April than they do in January. So I do have some hope that more interest builds leading up to the draft.

Yup, the combine can change a lot. What happened to Bo Nix? At one time he looked like a sure fire top 10 pick?

[gzubeck]

Not sure I'd go that far. Starting to sound a bit like Belichick. The analysts were proud of him for all that trading down, didn't work out so well.

Sorry, I was looking at Fleets mock draft where they have Nabers and Coleman going at #14-15 plus Verse going at #21....

[charger1_sj]

Sorry, I was looking at Fleets mock draft where they have Nabers and Coleman going at #14-15 plus Verse going at #21....

Nothing is impossible. The Niners traded away 3 1st rounder to get a QB who really never saw the field. On the other hand we've seen
5th-7th rounders become pro bowlers. 14-15 is not that bad, but better get the right GM, HC making the right decisions. That's way more
important.

[AK47]

Not sure I'd go that far. Starting to sound a bit like Belichick. The analysts were proud of him for all that trading down, didn't work out so well.

These TV analysts are funny sometimes. I remember a few days after we drafted Mouton (originally was graded as a poor pick), analysts were praising AJ Smith for a savvy pick that fell under the radar.

Truth is your savvy token draftnik on forums such as the illustrious PowderBlues Forum (shoutout to Fleet) has as good of a hit/miss ratio as these analysts let alone real analysts on NFL teams. .

[dmac_bolt]

Now compare the 5th pick to the 8th pick

I am not trading out of the top 10 for sure and really 8 seems fine with me.

Plus the Chargers need a lot. If they stay at 5 and get Bowers or even Nabers or Alt - thats fine. But depending on what happens that day, they shuold be prepared.

8 for a couple Day 2 picks, or maybe next year's 1 ... they are trading up for a QB - nobody gives that much trade stock to get a position player (well, almost never). so before we pick, only 2 of the following players would be taken:

Bowers
Nabers
Odunze
Alt
Fashanu (sp?)
Koolaid (i'd consider him at 8 now)
Latu (I wasnt aware of his prior injury retirement issue?)
... etc...

Scratch off your favorite 2 - would you be ok with whats left if given another 2 and 3, or ?

All depends on the offer made ...

NYG desperately need a QB and they are at 6. They can risk that we don't trade out to someone else, or they can offer us to be certain and get the remaining QB they want. Are they done having fun with no QB yet?

[charger1_sj]

These TV analysts are funny sometimes. I remember a few days after we drafted Mouton (originally was graded as a poor pick), analysts were praising AJ Smith for a savvy pick that fell under the radar.

Truth is your savvy token draftnik on forums such as the illustrious PowderBlues Forum (shoutout to Fleet) has as good of a hit/miss ratio as these analysts let alone real analysts on NFL teams. .

Well if your Mike Mayock, you like every pick. Didn't work out as GM.

[DerwinBosa]

8 for a couple Day 2 picks, or maybe next year's 1 ... they are trading up for a QB - nobody gives that much trade stock to get a position player (well, almost never). so before we pick, only 2 of the following players would be taken:

Bowers
Nabers
Odunze
Alt
Fashanu (sp?)
Koolaid (i'd consider him at 8 now)
Latu (I wasnt aware of his prior injury retirement issue?)
... etc...

Scratch off your favorite 2 - would you be ok with whats left if given another 2 and 3, or ?

All depends on the offer made ...

NYG desperately need a QB and they are at 6. They can risk that we don't trade out to someone else, or they can offer us to be certain and get the remaining QB they want. Are they done having fun with no QB yet?

I think they would rather trade up to Chicago's first overall pick if the Bears choose to keep Justin Fields. Or the Giants could trade for Justin Fields. I don't see Daboll wanting to reach for Penix, Bo Nix, J.J. McCarthy, or any other so-called first-round quarterback after Caleb, Maye, and Daniels. But...things could change, and I wouldn't be surprised if Daniels is still available at the fifth pick.

[Boltjolt]

NYG paid Daniel Jones 40 mil a year. I don't think they are desperate or they wouldn't have paid him.

If they draft another QB and try to trade Jones, I'm not sure anybody would want him for that price, let alone give a pick for him.

[ThatSinkingFeeling]

Can't see any team wanting to trade for Jones, and especially not at that salary. But next season is the only one where he has guaranteed money, so don't rule out them grabbing a QB and keep Jones for another year. Trading down to 6 should be risk free for the Chanrgers though.

[dmac_bolt]

NYG paid Daniel Jones 40 mil a year. I don't think they are desperate or they wouldn't have paid him.

If they draft another QB and try to trade Jones, I'm not sure anybody would want him for that price, let alone give a pick for him.

Daniels had a reg season rating of 70. They sure did pay him, that doesn’t mean they didn’t fuck up. I’m ok with them denying it another season and sucking longer but its inevitable.

Every Daboll fanboy in TPB, and there’s a many, insist he’s a great coach and it’s only his QB that has denied him the rep deserved. I agree his QB sucks, still waiting on that if-not but greatness part but thats just me.

[Bolt4Knob]

Can't see any team wanting to trade for Jones, and especially not at that salary. But next season is the only one where he has guaranteed money, so don't rule out them grabbing a QB and keep Jones for another year. Trading down to 6 should be risk free for the Chanrgers though.

Good point about Jones, maybe they do take QB. Chargers should be ready to pick at 5 but if three QBs go at the top, 1-2-3 - - MHJr will go to AZ at 4 (seems like a lock) - -Chargers could be open for business. Wheeling and dealing time!