And With The 5th Pick Of The NFL Draft Chargers Select....Discussion

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  • Chargers8491
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    • Apr 2022
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    Originally posted by Boltx View Post

    Why do we NEED to trade out of that spot, especially if a blue chip prospect is there?

    I understand if it's the deal of a lifetime, but I don't get this burning desire to trade down simply for the sake of trading down and picking up another mid round draft pick.

    Yeah, we have a lot of needs to fill. Guess what, we don't need to do it all in one offseason. 2024 isn't Super Bowl or bust. Personally I would always take the top 5 pick (especially in this draft with so many blue chip guys) instead of trading back to the middle of the round and taking a shot on someone who may or may not be there. Sammy Davis and Terrence Kiel say hello while Troy Polamalu is chilling in the HOF.

    Now if it's trading back to like 8 or 9 and still getting Bowers, sure. Is there even a deal like that out there? But honestly if MHJr is sitting there...how do you not take him? Take the generational talent (also at a position of need) and worry about the rest later. Trust me, nobody in 3 years is going to say "Man, I wish we didn't take MHJr just so we had traded back and had another pick to draft a backup ____). Don't overthink this!
    Because you are never 1 player away. I would rather have 2 very good players that fit vs 1 blue chip player. Also, you increase your odds. Who's to say the blue chip player doesn't bust? It happens.
    1- #11 Bowers TE 7a- #225 Boyd DT
    2a- #35 Cooper LB 7b- #253 Vidal RB
    2b- #37 Jenkins DT
    3a- #66 Puni OT
    3b- #69 Sainristill CB
    4a- #105 Rice WR
    4b- #110 Lloyd RB
    5- #140 Green CB
    6- #181 Nourzad C/OG

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    • blueman
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      Or the two lower drafted guys bust? That happens too.

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      • AK47
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        Originally posted by blueman View Post
        Or the two lower drafted guys bust? That happens too.
        You have to take account of position as well.

        Hit rate from 1st round of 2009-2018 drafts of positions getting 2nd contract.

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        • wu-dai clan
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          Brett Kollman is coming to the realization that eve if MHJ is there, barring an overwhelming trade offer, the Chargers will take Alt.

          I am trying to prepare you.
          Maybe we do play modern football.

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          • wu-dai clan
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            I am sensing that there might be some sort of Charger subterfuge going on with Nabers.
            If we do take him at 5 there is no doubt that Malik is a great player, one who will put a great deal of pressure on defenses.
            Maybe we do play modern football.

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            • NoMoreChillies
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              I'd take MHJ on pedigree alone. Father is HOF so you know the bloodline is there.
              I remember Ed McCaffrey on the broncos and look what his bloodline is doin nowadays

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              • sonorajim
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                Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
                I am sensing that there might be some sort of Charger subterfuge going on with Nabers.
                If we do take him at 5 there is no doubt that Malik is a great player, one who will put a great deal of pressure on defenses.
                Did his shopping for LA real estate on his recent visit lead you to suspect something?

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                • wu-dai clan
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                  Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                  Did his shopping for LA real estate on his recent visit lead you to suspect something?
                  Malik wants be a Charger.

                  There is something that does not add up.
                  Harbaugh publically stated that should QBs go 1-4 we would essentially have the first pick.
                  So we would pick Nabers over MHJ ?
                  Interesting.
                  Nabers to Chargers is leaked.
                  LOL.
                  Now that Jimbo has ginned up JJ McCarthy's value, does he want enhance trade offers for Nabers @ #5 ?
                  It just does not add up.
                  Lots of possibilities.
                  Maybe we do play modern football.

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                  • Boltx
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                    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                    Malik wants be a Charger.

                    There is something that does not add up.
                    Harbaugh publically stated that should QBs go 1-4 we would essentially have the first pick.
                    So we would pick Nabers over MHJ ?
                    Interesting.
                    Nabers to Chargers is leaked.
                    LOL.
                    Now that Jimbo has ginned up JJ McCarthy's value, does he want enhance trade offers for Nabers @ #5 ?
                    It just does not add up.
                    Lots of possibilities.
                    Harbaugh doesn't do or say anything without a plan.
                    ESPN Screename: GoBolts02

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                    • 21&500
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                      Okay, someone double-check my strategy to land Bowers + value:

                      If 4 QBs go 1-4 we likely are stuck at 5 unless someone wants to trade the farm for MH2.
                      If not
                      WE draft MH2 and let teams know that we couldn't pass up that.value BUT he is available in a trade to any team that drafts Bowers and is willing to offer 2025 1st.
                      If no.one bites, we risk very little drafting a blue chip prospect
                      If someone does bite, we just came.away with Bowers and a valuable pick next year.

                      I figure a future 1 is more than reasonable for any team wanting to get MH2
                      and it also secures Bowers for us vs trading down and HOPING he falls to us.

                      Yes, its very much the Eli and Rivers trade but less risky because MH2 hasn't said anything about not wanting to be a Charger.
                      2024: Far From Over

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                      • wu-dai clan
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                        Originally posted by Boltx View Post

                        Harbaugh doesn't do or say anything without a plan.
                        "There is no such thing as bad publicity."
                        Jimbo
                        Maybe we do play modern football.

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                        • Parcells
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                          Originally posted by AK47 View Post

                          You have to take account of position as well.

                          Hit rate from 1st round of 2009-2018 drafts of positions getting 2nd contract.

                          So according to this chart we definitely shouldn’t take Bowers and instead should just take Jackson Powers Johnson.

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