2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[dmac_bolt]

Problem is most people dont seem to understand that Reid, Mahomes and kelsey, have won 2 straight SB's without Hill......and this year they still played and beat the very best defense in the NFL to get there......

How many years will it take to build a better defense than 49ers had this year or ravens? even those defenses dominated other teams, BUT Reid, Mahomes and kelsey, somehow, have no problem scoring on them rather easily when they really have to score, such as last series of the half or game, or OT..... those great defenses loaded with talent were not good enough to stop chiefs when it really counted....

THE ONLY WAY to beat the chiefs is to outscore them by multiple scores so one drive does not beat you, or to have a long time consuming drive to take the lead and run out the clock so they cannot come back..... that requires a great offense based around great QB, OL, great TE and a power running game..... a complete offense has a great TE and a running game.... a great TE makes average WR's into playmakers.... look at chiefs, NE... and Chargers when we had Gates...... great TE's are the hardest offensive player to defend against..... too big for DB's to cover and too fast for LBers to cover.... and they are the best safety valve for a QB.... it is easier to take away a great WR than a great TE.....great TE's are a nightmare for defenses.... huge mismatch.....

Rivers beat Reids chiefs once, when we scored at end of game AND gambled on the 2 point conversion instead of risking OT where chiefs would likely easily win....and there were literally only a few seconds left when we did that...so that worked.... because time ran out!

Reid has even beaten chargers starters with his backups in a meaningless last game of season where Chargers had to win to get a WC.....Harbaugh, being a real football coach, should instantly end that kind of chargering..... lol

Its gonna be hard to outscore them by multiple scores without a good defense

[jamrock]

Its gonna be hard to outscore them by multiple scores without a good defense

If ever there was a year to outscore the Chiefs, the 2023 season was it. They struggled on offense all year.

[Leslie Grossman]

We've used more 1st round picks on OL in the last 3 years than Andy Reid has in 10 years at KC

Now compare total O Line salaries minus Linsley. Then go back a few years and do the same minus Bulaga.
The biggest problem was the Spanos blind loyalty to Telesco….and O line coaching which falls on Telesco and Staley.
Telesco was garbage and Green Bay knows what they are doing.

Going to take at least 2 great off seasons to dethrone KC. Could care less about squeaking into the playoffs next year. For those who think it would be great…. How long has it been since making the playoffs back to back?

[CanadianBoltFan]

JH2 if you want a right tackle - TRADE DOWN please

Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State: A-

At 6-6 and over 310 pounds, Fashanu tested like a premier athlete. And it shows on film. While none of his results were epic, the relatively young offensive tackle prospect had one of the highest vertical jumps among offensive linemen, and eclipsing 9-0 in the broad jump is impressive.

Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame: A

Alt checked the boxes. Not only was he nearly 6-foot-9 and over 320 pounds, his workout was fantastic with quality numbers across the board. His on-field performance was as smooth as can be too.

Taliese Fuaga, OT, Oregon State: A+

The big, thick and clearly highly-capable athlete from the Beavers program had himself an afternoon to wrap the combine. A 32-inch vertical at 6-6 and 326 pounds is phenomenal, and he outside of Troy Fautanu from Washington, was arguably the most dynamic mover on the field.

Amarius Mims, Georgia: A

Such a shame Mims pulled up lame on his second 40-yard dash because he was en route to a legendary workout. At nearly 6-8 and 340 pounds, running under 5.10 is insane. Even more unfathomable -- the Bulldogs bulldozing blocker had a 9-3 broad jump, which will place right around the 87th percentile among offensive tackles in the combine since 1999. No human should be able to move 340 pounds in the air that far. Other winners

[wu-dai clan]

I'm not really watching it. Watched 5 min and was bored as they were doing drills. But, was it Mims I saw had 11.18" hands? . That's massive!

Dude is raw but he moves extremely well.

[chargeroo]

In all honesty with some speculation of a team trading up to 4 and taking a QB, which puts Marvin Harrison Jr. in the Chargers laps. I don’t want him! There will be a team that wants to trade up if he’s there and I would take that trade because it would probably be a good haul. Like a lot of people have said here; they are more than just one player away.

1. That's always the case.
2. They can only take them one at a time, so -
3. That statement is meaningless.

[Lone Bolt]

You want a Tackle? Trade back and get Fuaga/Latham/Mims....

You want defense? Trade back and get the #1 Edge or Corner or DT...

You want WR? Trade back and get Brian Thomas Jr, who is a top 10 pick getting overshadowed by a Historic big 3 in that group...

You want Brock Bowers? Trade back, and you probably still get him...lol

Seeing a pattern?

[sonorajim]

Now compare total O Line salaries minus Linsley. Then go back a few years and do the same minus Bulaga.
The biggest problem was the Spanos blind loyalty to Telesco….and O line coaching which falls on Telesco and Staley.
Telesco was garbage and Green Bay knows what they are doing.

Going to take at least 2 great off seasons to dethrone KC. Could care less about squeaking into the playoffs next year. For those who think it would be great…. How long has it been since making the playoffs back to back?

LOL! The last time we had a good team.
How often does KC make the playoffs back to back? That's who we want to unseat.
No better time to start than 2024.

[jamrock]

Now compare total O Line salaries minus Linsley. Then go back a few years and do the same minus Bulaga.
The biggest problem was the Spanos blind loyalty to Telesco….and O line coaching which falls on Telesco and Staley.
Telesco was garbage and Green Bay knows what they are doing.

Going to take at least 2 great off seasons to dethrone KC. Could care less about squeaking into the playoffs next year. For those who think it would be great…. How long has it been since making the playoffs back to back?

Meh on salary comparisons. Do that for the Chargers and you would have expected to them to lead the league in sacks, INt's and the best WR in the league

[Leslie Grossman]

I’m not hanging onto overpriced and/or injury prone vets to be a little better right away when we could start building a better 2025 team and beyond now.
If they do that and still make the playoffs, great.

[sonorajim]

If ever there was a year to outscore the Chiefs, the 2023 season was it. They struggled on offense all year.

They came to life in the playoffs.
Sandbaggers.

[blueman]

Somebody correct me:

Don't we have two 7th round picks already, from a trade or something?

And don’t we get a comp for Tranquill?

How many picks right now then, 8 or 9?

Edit: just looked it up, one pick per round currently. So seven picks: IDLx2, OLx2, CB, RB, ???… in no particular order. Okay then.