2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[Boltjolt]

We got a Josh Palmer already...and a Slayer...and a Q...and Davis, and maybe Erickson...

We dont really need a WR...if we take one, I imagine it will be one of the big 3, because they are too special to pass up...or very late...really dont see a reason to pick one in the middle rounds at all...not when we could use rbs, tes, olineman, lbs, corners, dlineman...

Hell, WR may be the one group, outside of QB, that we really cant qualify as a need.

Erickson? You are good with him? He is 31 ya know.
Whether we need a WR or not, this is a deep class and it would be who of us to take one. Let TT have Erickson back. I think we will keep 5 WRs on the roster. Erickson would be #5....ima hec no we can do better on this and we certainly can use one as Davis is basically a KR who got a small handful of plays and is very small.

Keenan may be here 2 more years. Get a WR, develope and see how good he can be. I think Rice would be a great pick for us.

Just how i see it.

[eaterfan]

That WR line up you list is unispiring...the best one is an elite posession receiver but about to be 32. Palmer is a good WR3 at best. QJ is a potential bust. Davis is a kick returner and Erickson is a journeyman that bounces around teams.

Think back to our plodding offense last year that had to go down the field in long perfect drives and how defenses didnt have to worry about deep balls.

We could definately use a top tier game breaking weapon with speed and YAC.

But I agree, this team has so many positional needs to upgrade you can find areas of more urgent need.

This team isn't winning the Superbowl in 2024-25. Our draft strategy shouldn't be built around our needs for that season. It should be building the best team for the year after that and going forward.

[Chargers8491]

You want a Harbaugh type TE take a look at Tip Reiman, Illinois, 6'5, 273lbs. He is definitely at late 3rd day pick but he would upgrade the pass and run blocking. He is someone to watch at the combine.

[DerwinBosa]

Who in the hell has been making that claim? You're just throwing shit out there that nobody is saying to make a case on something nobody said? LOL, I've yet to read anyone making those types of claims, even those of us that like to draft O-line high like myself agree that pipkins will likely be upgraded by 2025 are getting shitted on for not wanting to make the change this year...I'm just not as in love with Alt or Fashanu or any of the top linemen this year to start them as rookies on a different side of the line just because I dislike Pip so much?...then there is the contractual stuff and the cap things to consider...do I want an All-pro RT to go with our All-pro LT? of course I do and pipkins is not that guy, I know that, but he doesn't have to be that guy for this team to have a good year in 2024, he just has to be average and give our FO and new coaches time to fill current holes elsewhere and then they can address trading or cutting him next offseason...

In any typical draft teams can find some of the better RTs in the 20-32 range of the first round or into the second round, why won't that happen for us in 2025? It's this desperation of this year or nothing that I don't understand...Yes the tackles are better than usual this year which means that guys going in day two and early day three are probably getting pushed down a bit this year, that's a good thing for us...

So even tho we agree that RT should be upgraded people like me are getting shitted on simply because we don't think it's the right time to do that this year due to the massive holes elsewhere on the roster that need to take priority...I'm all for trading clear down to the 15-20 if you guys want to take the best center in the draft and stock pile a shit load of picks in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4rth rounds to use to fill all the holes at TE, CB, IDL, RB, LB, S, and potentially Edge depending on what happens with Mack and Bosa...

It was a joke. Take it easy.

I'm curious, though. Besides Brock Bowers being your top guy, why are you so against Joe Alt with the fifth overall pick? You do realize that several offensive tackles have switched from the left to the right after getting drafted, right?

And what makes you believe Pipkins will even be average after sucking the majority of what is currently his five-year career? Something tells me you'd be saying the same thing about Storm Norton or any of the other below-average (I'm being kind here) right tackles we've had over the last 15+ years if they were currently on the team. "We have a chance to draft Brock Bowers, the generational talent! Pipkins will be just fine at right tackle!" Sorry, I'm not buying it.

In any typical draft teams can find some of the better RTs in the 20-32 range of the first round or into the second round, why won't that happen for us in 2025?

It could. I have NEVER said we HAVE to draft a right tackle in the first round. Several times I have mentioned other possibilities with the fifth overall pick or by trading down. The three pass-rushers, Quinyon Mitchell, Kool-Aid, and others are intriguing options in a trade-down scenario. In any typical draft you can get a starting tight end after the first round, with many (Travis Kelce, Rob Gronkowski, Mark Andrews, George Kittle, Sam LaPorta) becoming All-Pros, so why is there this total distaste for taking Alt over Bowers if that is the route Harbaugh and Hortiz choose to take?

[dmac_bolt]

Another WR I really like for us....Brenden Rice. First 3:30 minutes is his time with Colorado.

This kid is good. Real good.

[Boltinloudguy]

So what’s the consensus on CB Quinyon Mitchell around here. Would he be worth the 11th pick if they traded back?

Is there a scenario that the Bears trade the 1st pick to Washington. Then the Bears take Jayden Daniels with the 2nd pick. Then the Bears trade up to the 5th pick to take Malik Nabers to pair Daniels and Nabers together with DJ Moore? I think that could possibly happen. Or the Bears just take Brian Thomas Jr. at 9.

[DerwinBosa]

So what’s the consensus on CB Quinyon Mitchell around here. Would he be worth the 11th pick if they traded back?

Is there a scenario that the Bears trade the 1st pick to Washington. Then the Bears take Jayden Daniels with the 2nd pick. Then the Bears trade up to the 5th pick to take Malik Nabers to pair Daniels and Nabers together with DJ Moore? I think that could possibly happen. Or the Bears just take Brian Thomas Jr. at 9.

Quinyon Mitchell is definitely someone I wish I knew more about. He's a very intriguing prospect. I imagine he would be considered more seriously as a top-five pick if he had produced at a similar level while playing for a top SEC or Big Ten school. I won't be disappointed if Harbaugh and Hortiz end up taking him in the first round.

2. Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo

A dominant DB in the MAC, he once had four interceptions and two pick sixes in one game. He’s a solid 6-0, 195 pounds and bench pressed 225 pounds 21 times last offseason. He also had a top speed of 23.58 MPH on the GPS last summer. Last spring, he ran in the 4.3s twice in the 40 for NFL scouts. I expect him to run in the mid-4.3s in Indy and excel in everything he does there. Mitchell is a big-time talent.

https://theathletic.com/5295335/2024/02/25/nfl-draft-combine-college-football-freaks-list-bruce-feldman/

[CanadianBoltFan]

This team isn't winning the Superbowl in 2024-25. Our draft strategy shouldn't be built around our needs for that season. It should be building the best team for the year after that and going forward.

Yes I agree. Harbaugh is a good enough coach that this team could regroup and get 9 or 10 wins next year but resetting this team for long term serious contention should be the goal.

So either trade down for extra picks to address multiple holes, or given that this team wont likley be drafting at 5 again, take advantage of the opportunity to add a blue chip difference maker for the next 10 years.

[CanadianBoltFan]

So what’s the consensus on CB Quinyon Mitchell around here. Would he be worth the 11th pick if they traded back?

Is there a scenario that the Bears trade the 1st pick to Washington. Then the Bears take Jayden Daniels with the 2nd pick. Then the Bears trade up to the 5th pick to take Malik Nabers to pair Daniels and Nabers together with DJ Moore? I think that could possibly happen. Or the Bears just take Brian Thomas Jr. at 9.

I think Mitchell, after being the best defensive player at the Senior Bowl, is going to absolutely light up the combine. If we trade down a little and go CB, this is the guy I want. Yes I think he will go top 15 and might well unseat Arnold as the top CB taken.

The Athletic just did an article about the top 35 "freaks" who will show out at the combine. Mitchell came in at #2

A dominant DB in the MAC, he once had four interceptions and two pick sixes in one game. He’s a solid 6-0, 195 pounds and bench pressed 225 pounds 21 times last offseason. He also had a top speed of 23.58 MPH on the GPS last summer. Last spring, he ran in the 4.3s twice in the 40 for NFL scouts. I expect him to run in the mid-4.3s in Indy and excel in everything he does there. Mitchell is a big-time talent.

[Boltjolt]

So what’s the consensus on CB Quinyon Mitchell around here. Would he be worth the 11th pick if they traded back?

Is there a scenario that the Bears trade the 1st pick to Washington. Then the Bears take Jayden Daniels with the 2nd pick. Then the Bears trade up to the 5th pick to take Malik Nabers to pair Daniels and Nabers together with DJ Moore? I think that could possibly happen. Or the Bears just take Brian Thomas Jr. at 9.

I think the Bears should stick with Fields. I dont see a real upgrade with Caleb or Maye though i think Maye overall could be better than Caleb. Give Fields some better protection and another WR and they can be real good. d take Arnold over Mitchell but he is #2.

Still think Bowers is a player we will draft @11. Hopefully he lasts that long. Jets could draft him @ 10. They have Aaron but they should draft his replacement.

[QSmokey]

I think the Bears should stick with Fields. I dont see a real upgrade with Caleb or Maye though i think Maye overall could be better than Caleb. Give Fields some better protection and another WR and they can be real good. d take Arnold over Mitchell but he is #2.

Still think Bowers is a player we will draft @11. Hopefully he lasts that long. Jets could draft him @ 10. They have Aaron but they should draft his replacement.

11? Sorry if I missed your trade-scenario post, but what did we get in return for the move from #5 to #11?

Another question...say we do move down to #11, and let's say the following players are all off the board:

Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, MHJr, Nabers, Jaylen Daniels, Alt, Fashanu, Odunze, Bowers, and Dallas Turner

Who would you draft?

[sonorajim]

This team isn't winning the Superbowl in 2024-25. Our draft strategy shouldn't be built around our needs for that season. It should be building the best team for the year after that and going forward.

Draft only players that don't project to be useful for a year or two?
I believe we'll draft to improve this year and each thereafter. Nobody is a lock to win the next SB. Why not try?
It would break Harbaugh's heart if Hortiz says sorry buddy, you aren't winning this year, I'll get you a better team next year.The relationship would turn to crap. We'll need a new GM.
We aren't doing that. Period. Harbaugh is built to compete to win. He and his staff were a huge waste of money if we want him to take it easy, put his Chargers team on cruise control for a year..